thank you stokemaveric

[Dee Sa]

Its the only race I ever bet on, but I took your advice and got at Corals
Ballabrigs e/w 16/1
Niche Market e/w 25/1
and hubby had Dont push it e/w 8/1
Can you work out how much winnings we get pls ?
thanks so much for the tip, I never ever win anything !
Dee

[stokemaveric]

hi dee sa depends how much you put on...well done...

[B00]

The League Against Cruel Sports accused race organisers of 'ritual animal cruelty'.

It said there have been 17 deaths at the National in the last 16 years.

A spokesman said: 'It is ritualised animal cruelty and yet the racing industry stand by and watch, while John Smith's put their profits into sponsoring the cruelty.

'Everyone involved should be thoroughly ashamed.'

Andrew Tyler of Animal Aid attacked the BBC, alleging a commentator described the dead horses lying on the course as an 'obstacle'.

He said: 'When horses are killed at the Grand National meeting, their deaths are not accidents but entirely predictable.

'The public has been conned into believing that the Grand National is a great sporting spectacle when, in reality, it is straightforward animal abuse that is on a par with Spanish bullfighting.

'This race should have no future in a civilised country. The BBC deserves particular condemnation for all but concealing news of the deaths.

'It is particularly callous and disgusting that a member of the BBC commentary team should describe the dead horses as they lay on the course as an "obstacle".'

Read more: http://www.dailymail....ee.html#ixzz1J2mPTHE3

[SIRandyraven]

If all horse racing was banned , what would happen to all the horses ?
Also the jobs of 1,000's involved in the industry.
What's the answer ?

[B00]

Dunno randy- so lets keep breeding them, where only the chosen few make it big, those hat dont make pet food- or worse.

[alexanderd]

There are too many horses running in the National which is why they have theses accidents. Entry should be limited. Some of the entries have no chance unless there is a disaster as in the year Foinavin(I think) won

[B00]

errr, no, it should be banned full stop. It's barbaric, cruel and pointless, unless you count the money involved of course.

[alexanderd]

Boo, I would ban it as well but it aint going to happen so lets try and make it safer

[B00]

Why is it not going to happen? Plenty of money was made through other barbaric animal sports, eventually people saw the "sport" for what it was. Eventually, this will go the same way, if us protesters speak loudly and for long enough.

[stokemaveric]

racehorses are bred to race...its in their blood...there are as many horse fatalities in showjumping than there are in horse racing show horses are bred to jump in equestrian events,they jump over fences with a near sheer vertical drop at the other side of the fence..that is not the case at aintree i do think tho that there are too many horses in the race..the owners,the riders and all connections of the poor horses that died today will all be in bits tonight..but the horses died doing what they lived for...racing...sorry if that sounds heartless but its the fact...

[B00]

Bulls are bread to be fought in Span Stoke, should that continue too?

[alexanderd]

Sorry Boo but did you see how many people attended Aintree this week, you are talking big business and they wont let it go

[B00]

maybe not yet- but it doesn't mean that we have to suffer in silence does it? The protesters are getting bigger and louder, eventually we will be heard.

[stokemaveric]

well not really boo..but bulls are sent into the bull ring actually to be killed by the matador...its a different scenario really..hey i do feel sorry for the horses that lost their lives today..its tragic...

[DTCwordfan]

someone on their high horse, perhaps?

[craft1948]

Go for it Boo..............a strange fact is that horses love to race each other.

[alexanderd]

I agree, I am on your side, more power to your elbow but I dont think I will live to see it not with the number of people involved. Its not like fox-hunting which was a minority thing

[B00]

Fact- horses do not love to race each other. Horses "race" to keep up with the herd. It's an instinct thing, survival, if you lag behind, whatevers chasing you will eat you. So wrong Craft im afraid.

[boxtops]

Has anyone actually answered Dee Sa's question....? This is all repeating what's on the Celebrating thread..

[DTCwordfan]

I don't really have an issue with bull fighting, never mind horses. The horse racing industry is huge and the horse live pretty good lives. Of course there are maverics in any industry and the horse racing industry has had some, and shame on those small percentage of folk. Most owners, trainers, stable teams etc etc really love their charges and will be appalled at the loss of two today.

The issue today is what prat allowed a hunter to race amongst this field as that was one of the deaths. It should have not been included and I would like to kno who is ultimately responsible for this very poor decision, the owner, the trainer or the race officials??