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Pakistan floods, interesting quote.
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On the news today about the floods in Pakistan I heard a woman say something which I found interesting and quite amusing in a dark sort of way. Her home had been washed away and she was on saying "It took years for God to give us our house, now the floods have taken it away".
What The Funicular? Surely their house was built by local people and was destroyed by natural disaster. Can she really think that?
What The Funicular? Surely their house was built by local people and was destroyed by natural disaster. Can she really think that?
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Answerprancer have you come from a third world country. What exactly are you going to do about their plight? Throw yet more aid at them, it seems to be a bottomless pit, the aid that is dealt out to all those different countries. We have had floods but we received not aid whatsoever, oh I forgot Iceland sent us some warm jumpers. IMO How much longer are they going to live in the dark ages, we have millions of them here, but none seems to go back and show them how to go on.
I can see I'm in a minority here where inhabitants of places like Pakistan are deemed unimportant.
Flobadob, it doesn't matter where you post crap like this, it's clearly and obviously inflammatory and trivialises a grave humanitarian situation - live with the response.
I don't see it as a "row"; you excercised your freedom of speech, I'm excercising mine.
Askyourgran, I have spent time in a developing/3rd world country and I know the difference between hardship and plain day to day hell through lack of infrastructure. What am I going to do about their plight? Anything I can over and above the work I have already done.
The aid other (developed) countries have had "thrown" at them is massive compared to anything Cumbria may have needed last year.
It's *not* a bottomless pit, we are 'developed' we have the ability not only to bring aid abut to help nations like this with sustainability.
Flobadob, it doesn't matter where you post crap like this, it's clearly and obviously inflammatory and trivialises a grave humanitarian situation - live with the response.
I don't see it as a "row"; you excercised your freedom of speech, I'm excercising mine.
Askyourgran, I have spent time in a developing/3rd world country and I know the difference between hardship and plain day to day hell through lack of infrastructure. What am I going to do about their plight? Anything I can over and above the work I have already done.
The aid other (developed) countries have had "thrown" at them is massive compared to anything Cumbria may have needed last year.
It's *not* a bottomless pit, we are 'developed' we have the ability not only to bring aid abut to help nations like this with sustainability.
Answerprancer – Are you sugesting that Pakistan is a 3rd world country or a developing nation? The two are not the same thing at all.
Maybe you're unaware that the economy of Pakistan [from Wikipedia], “... is the 27th largest economy in the world in terms of purchasing power, and the 45th largest [out of approximately 190 countries in the world] in absolute dollar terms”
And with Pakistan also having a nuclear weapons capability, it can hardly be described as a country on its knees financially or politically.
What you have done is to misunderstand (wilfully, in my opinion) the point of flobadob's original question, which was to highlight the absurdity of thanking God for something He had no hand in, in order to make a political point about the ability of Pakistan to cope with the recent floods.
The floods are a humanitarian tragedy; of that there is no doubt. But it's a predictable tragedy, as this region of Pakistan is routinely subjected to intense summer flooding. The Pakistan Government knew full well that this would happen at some point and did absolutely nothing to protect its own citizens.
Sadly, Pakistan is the newest addition to an ever growing list of countries that are ruled by an elite who would rather spend money on weapons, industry, and lavish buildings for its over-privileged rulers than spend money on relatively inexpensive flood defence systems that would help protect the very people who are the lifeblood of the nation.
Maybe you're unaware that the economy of Pakistan [from Wikipedia], “... is the 27th largest economy in the world in terms of purchasing power, and the 45th largest [out of approximately 190 countries in the world] in absolute dollar terms”
And with Pakistan also having a nuclear weapons capability, it can hardly be described as a country on its knees financially or politically.
What you have done is to misunderstand (wilfully, in my opinion) the point of flobadob's original question, which was to highlight the absurdity of thanking God for something He had no hand in, in order to make a political point about the ability of Pakistan to cope with the recent floods.
The floods are a humanitarian tragedy; of that there is no doubt. But it's a predictable tragedy, as this region of Pakistan is routinely subjected to intense summer flooding. The Pakistan Government knew full well that this would happen at some point and did absolutely nothing to protect its own citizens.
Sadly, Pakistan is the newest addition to an ever growing list of countries that are ruled by an elite who would rather spend money on weapons, industry, and lavish buildings for its over-privileged rulers than spend money on relatively inexpensive flood defence systems that would help protect the very people who are the lifeblood of the nation.
Some more 'interesting'? quotes:
"Acknowledging life as a self-sustaining, self-regenerating process would be a logical first step in emerging from the quagmire of wallowing in a cesspool of ignorance, appealing to a non-existent overseer of reality for the undeserved and unearned."
"We are not personally responsible for the world we're born into but we are responsible to ourselves to confront that reality and make the most of it."
"If you want to help someone, offer them not your pity but provide them with the knowledge and freedom to help themselves, without which we are all helpless beings forever bound to and trapped within a hopeless cause."
"Seeing the benefits one stands to gain is the fountain from which springs the desire to fully embrace and engage in the life process and to become more than the animals we evolved from."
"To defy reason is to deny our unique nature, something no other healthy animal would ever think of doing."
"Acknowledging life as a self-sustaining, self-regenerating process would be a logical first step in emerging from the quagmire of wallowing in a cesspool of ignorance, appealing to a non-existent overseer of reality for the undeserved and unearned."
"We are not personally responsible for the world we're born into but we are responsible to ourselves to confront that reality and make the most of it."
"If you want to help someone, offer them not your pity but provide them with the knowledge and freedom to help themselves, without which we are all helpless beings forever bound to and trapped within a hopeless cause."
"Seeing the benefits one stands to gain is the fountain from which springs the desire to fully embrace and engage in the life process and to become more than the animals we evolved from."
"To defy reason is to deny our unique nature, something no other healthy animal would ever think of doing."
"crap"? How did you arrive at this one-word deduction based on what I said ? Do you have the intelligence to expand upon this ?
"well said gran" How can you compare a situation like Worcester (and Cumbria) with the loss of ONE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED lives in a country that has a far more limited infrastructure and less wealth ?
"well said gran" How can you compare a situation like Worcester (and Cumbria) with the loss of ONE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED lives in a country that has a far more limited infrastructure and less wealth ?
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