If Jesus came to earth...?

[flobadob]

[flobadob]

Would he sort anything out or have any affect?

[theonlyone]

You have answered your own question .

[MarkRae]

Surely you mean *when* Jesus comes *back* to Earth... ;-)

[ciaraciara]

Well judging by the bible, when Jesus comes to Earth it is for the final judgement, so he wouldn't be really sorting out the Earth, he'd be sorting the good from the bad and bringing the "good" ones with him, condemning the others to hell?? Maybe I'm wrong here.. :P

[flobadob]

Mark if I give a sunni about that this would be in literature.

[MarkRae]

They sold me a dream of Christmas
They sold me a silent night
They told me a fairy story
Till I believed in the Israelite

[naomi24]

If Jesus came back no one would recognise him because he wasn't what people believe he was.

[flobadob]

Couple of miracles surely and no probs.

[karenmac60]

He would end up in a mental hospital - in fact, who's to say he isn't in one right now.

[flobadob]

He can walk through walls and bet out of straight jackets so that doesn't hold water karen.

[mibn2cweus]

I've heard he was at the dentist, just the other day . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS3Olh9DnaE

[naomi24]

A couple of miracles wouldn't do it. Television magicians do that sort of thing regularly. Houdini got out of straightjackets - and I'd be willing to bet Jesus couldn't walk through walls.

[birdie1971]

I think Naomi has it right when she says, “... no one would recognise him...”

For the very simple reason that billions of Christians believe that he was a pail skinned, bearded European. That's how he's depicted in just about every western pictorial representation that exists today. Yet, assuming Jesus did exist (which he almost certainly didn't) he was born in what we now recognise as the Middle-East to at least one Middle-Eastern parent – Mary. The Bible is not forthcoming in a description of God's ethnicity. I think it's therefore safe to assume that God's melanin levels (if He has any) are an irrelevance.

Therefore, due to genetics, Jesus must have acquired his skin tone from his mother. But there is little if any reference to Mary's parents in the Bible. As such, supporters of the 'White Christ' can assume anything about Mary's ethnicity.

Logically however, given the times and the distinct lack of widespread international immigration and emigration, I think it's safe to assume that Mary was typically Middle-Eastern in her skin tone. Therefore she will have been dusky-brown in colour and would have passed this genetic trait onto her son.

[birdie1971]

In short, the image of a pale skinned, bearded Saviour depicted in artworks all over Europe and etched onto the minds of a billion Christians is simply wrong.

Nothing to do with this particular question, but interesting nonetheless....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL5WVecNdhk

[birdie1971]

Ignore my last link.

This one is much better...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W_yoeFJpsU

[chakka35]

As I said on another thread recently, birdie, how do these people who see Jesus in drying plaster and so on know what they are looking for? Where are the photographs for reference?

And I always laugh out loud when a hysterical teenager or two see a Virgin Mary who is tall and slim with a peaches-and-cream complexion, often with blonde hair and maybe even wearing a crucifix! She would, as you say, be swarthy, to which I would add a Jewish nose, dark to black hair, a shortish build and possibly slightly plump due to a diet laced with olives and fatty lamb. Just a guess, but an educated one.

The original question is a daft one until you have established (a) that Jesus existed, and (b) that he had the magical powers to 'come back' (from where?). Both thngs are imposible to prove or even offer good evidence for. Still, this is the R&S site.

[naomi24]

It's not only his physical appearance that would prevent people from recognising him - his philosophy wouldn't be recognised either. Jesus wasn't a Christian - there was no such thing in his day. He was a devout Jew - and I don't believe he ever intended to found a new religion. Christianity was invented by other people in his name and long after his death. Jesus has been used and abused for centuries, and I feel very sorry for him.

[Garmard]

I read that the whole Jesus story was made up by Saul of Tarsus(St Paul).

[rowanwitch]

Any number of faiths hold on to the idea of a great spirit/ual leader coming to save/lead/judge them... The jesus story has much in common with Pagan beliefs about a goddess who has a child by a 'god' the child god grows and is cut down in his prime so that life can continue... on that basis the virgin mary is just another manifestation of the ancient fertility goddess and Jesus the corn god or whatever I prefer to believe there is a life force or energy in all of us, whether it has consciousness or not I don't like organised religions as they are creations of man to control other men and women...

[chakka35]

Yes, Garmard, Paul was the very first person ever to mention Jesus - in his epistles written between AD55 and 60. He said, without supplying any evidence or eye-witnesses, that there was once a man called Jesus who was the son of God, who came to earth as a redeemer, who was crucified and rose from the dead, and that everyone who believed that story would have everlasting life. That was the start of Christianity. There was absolutely nothing before that.