Alien Intervention

[luna-tic]

If people from another world (in a hypothetical situation) visited Earth and told us they were involved in this planets creation,evolution, they know the God or creative spirit and even knew the true story behind Jesus. Would we listen?, Would the devoutly religious denounce them and their stories as evil? Would the sceptics who didn't believe in intelligent life on other planets still not accept the visitors information?
I know, as I have said many a time before,"Who created God?" or "Who created the beings that could be our gods?" Mmm....Tricky one.

[jno]

you might still want to know who created the aliens

[luna-tic]

Blimey `jno' that was a speedy reply.
That's what I was referring to when I mentioned, the beings that could be our gods.

[jno]

I'm working late... Anyway, it doesn't really solve the issue, just pushes it further back in time. The question is still 'who created the creator?', as you say. Or if you're not religious, the question of 'who (or what) created the Big Bang?' can still be asked.

[funkymoped]

my own belief is that we ARE the aliens on this planet !!!
we are way too advanced compared to the rest of the planet. buildings that have stood for centuries, millennia even.
we have progressed so much in the last 1000 years.
just look at the last 150 years !!!

[mibn2cweus]

Fool us once, shame on them. Fool us twice, shame on us!

If they have knowledge of these 'creation'/'God' myths they were the most likely origin of them; at the very least they were responsible for the introduction on those myths here on Earth.

Religion has always strongly opposed knowledge that brings into question its underlying premises, even when such knowledge is glaring them in the face. Skeptics seek to escape the limitations imposed by reality by refusing to believe that anything can be known with certainty.

Who ever created 'God', it was a creation in the unrestrained imagination of a 'thinking' entity. Even myths require the preexistence of a world from which to draw irrational conclusions from a mind that refuses to differentiate between beliefs and knowledge of what is and what potentially could be and should be.

Seem the furthest possibility to be considered by those who believe in 'God' is that this 'God' might have been created by a monster far more hideous and evil than his alleged adversary, 'the devil'. The true enemy by any name is any entity or idea that attempts to alienate the connection between an individuals perception and understanding of reality.

[luna-tic]

Hello again `jno'. Yes you are right; It leaves the issue hanging somewhere.
I am not religious and don't really know enough about the `Big Bang' theory to believe in that either.
Maybe in years to come (if we're still here) that theory will be hanging around in history too and we may look back and laugh at it.

[luna-tic]

Good morning Funky, So are we genetically modified from alien stock ?(not cubes) or direct descendants from our other worldly travellers or maybe just an experiment.
Humans have made wonderful technological advances though as inhabitants I still think we are thoughtless in our concern for this planet and it's people.
Some try their best to help others but still wars carry on, pollution is rife and greed will never stop.

[luna-tic]

Hi Mib, The basis of any myth or story should derive it's existence from the origins of others especially at the beginning of human intelligence(whenever that was).
Does that coincide with your theory?
Could it be that the ancestors(if they are-the aliens) passed on this knowledge and then went their own way and the secrets of our origins were left with the early tribes on this planet?

[beso]

mibn2 analysis is spot on except that it need not be hypothetical that God's creator is a hideous monster. He was an evil schitzophrenic called Abraham. While in a delusional state Abraham decided that God told him to murder his son and he was just about to when he snapped out of it. How his ideas came to be respected is a sorry reflection on the nature of most human beings.

Joshua really carried the death and destruction theme to new highs by massacring more than thirty tribes and stealing their wealth and land. George W Bush probably holds the world record now despite valiant efforts by Osama bin Laden and friends to take the trophy.

Take a look at what is used to justify death and destruction across the planet and the past three millennia and you will find religious faith in Abraham's monster is right up there with all those who are pulling the strings.

These minions to an evil entitiy are desperate to fulfill the Armageddon prophecy to prove the validity of their beliefs. The Biblical prophesies are indeed a curse on humanity brought about by pure unabated evil.

[figure]

Well I would want to see proof.
I find this stuff fascinating. Can we form our own Alien committee and do our own research and investigation? We could do like all other organization pressure folk for money to finance this project.

[luna-tic]

Thanks `beso',
I have heard of other creatures who made a few mistakes while supposedly forming this planet and it's inhabitants.
They were `The Nephilim'.

`figure', Nice idea about the committee, don't know about asking people for money though.

[figure]

Doesn't it make your mind blank when you think about evolution and creation, and how and why things started, and why things happen? I go crazy at times thinking.

[luna-tic]

`figure' I find the subject/s extremely interesting but never let them take over my thoughts completely.

[naomi24]

Hi Luna, hope you had a nice Christmas. As you know, I believe people from other planets visited earth in the distant past - and I believe this is where stories of gods originate. They were the gods (and I include the biblical god in that). I don't believe they created the universe, but I think they had a hand in the history of our planet. If they came again and told us they had been involved in the past, yes, I think religion would denounce them - and many skeptics would too.

[luna-tic]

Hello Naomi, My Christmas was very peaceful except for this morning at around 7:00am, when some silly electrician in the vicinity must have cut the wrong wire and all the residents burgular alarms went off....Grrrrr!
Anyway, I hope you had a jolly time?
I wonder how much convincing any sceptic would need or devoutly religious person would believe if the obvious but contrary to their way of thinking was staring them in the face?
If a blinding beam of light projected from the skies and a loud booming voice spoke to people and told us how to change our ways for the better then this could be Earth's personal God/s and beings from other worlds too.

[luna-tic]

Then again...if a craft (U.L.O-unidentified landed object) visited my back garden, I would still want to take a peek inside just to make sure it really is beings from another world that are piloting it.
I've got so many questions I want to ask them.

[naomi24]

Me too. Cup of tea and a chat with an alien? I can't think of a better way to spend an afternoon. Seriously, I can never understand why most people appear to totally discount the possibility that the earth may have been visited in the past. I can only presume, that in man's arrogance, he cannot come to terms with the prospect that beings from other planets may have been highly evolved (and I mean HIGHLY evolved) long before we were in our infancy. Given the age of the universe, why shouldn't that be so? We don't know what science has in store for us in the future, so how can we possibly know what heights (sorry) other life forms (or perhaps the same life forms?) may have reached in the distant past? So many questions there - and, for me, so many answers to religion as we know it.

I began this post by saying I would welcome a chat with an alien - but if that alien turned out to be the biblical god, then perhaps not. He wasn't the most pleasant of creatures, and not someone in whose company I would feel entirely at ease. Off with her head!!!!

[Clanad]

As an aside, the phrase 'highly evolved aliens' doesn't compute, so to speak. The reason being that our star, the Sun is a Second Generation (Population !) star. First Generation (Population II) stars formed at approximately 1/2 million years (mya) following the Big Bang, but were enormous (equivalent to at least 1 million Solar-masses) and consisted only of hydrogen and helium. None have any planetary systems. From these proto-stars (following their maturation and collapse) came all of the heavier elements that enabled life to exist on our Earth. Only a few lasted longer than about 2 or 3 mya. Our sun, along with almost all other Second Generation stars are relatively the same age, about 5 billion years give or take. That means that while some stars are of an older age and could have earth type planets revolving and life could have arisen (that's another subject for discussion) ,most are on average with our own sun. Meaning, even if planetary systems are located capable of sustaining life, many are going to be the same age as earth, hence evoloution (again, another subject open for discussion) would not have produced any beings more advanced than ourselves. Any older star having a chance of a life-sustaining planet are at such astronomical distances, light-year wise, as to be out of the question of it's inhabitants ever reaching the earth... Best of luck!

[luna-tic]

Hello Clanad, Although I can appreciate the theories gathered by scientists; These thoughts still derive from humans, their viewpoint of the universe and how it affects us. We work with what we know and forget that other beings may look at our so-called development and snigger.

[luna-tic]

Hi Naomi, I hope the aliens like Earl Grey because that's all I have at the moment.
Uh-Oh! Off with my head!
:0)