Body & Soul1 min ago
What Is The Difference?....
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Following the kidnapping of girls by Boko Haram there was a significant campaign to 'Bring Back Our Girls'. Yet when an Iraqi MP wrote to Michelle Obama about the Yazidis she received no response.
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agchristie - In my opinion, both the Obama's are band-wagon jumpers. She saw it as an opportunity to promote herself on the world stage as a caring, humanitarian who was gravely concerned about the plight of those kidnapped Christian school girls by the modern day horror known as Islamic Fundamentali
01:54 Wed 19th Aug 2015
I have no real answer but wonder if the first kidnapping incident was seen as a moral issue one could get behind, but subsequent similar situations risk setting a president of needing to respond to every cause brought to their attention with the same vigour. And the thought that they are already doing what is considered what they should agains isil anyway ?
Perhaps it’s because the situation has accelerated far beyond expectation. With so many atrocities being committed on a daily basis just where do opposing forces begin? They are, metaphorically (or perhaps literally) speaking, between the devil and the deep blue sea. On the one hand they are facing a barbaric organisation the like of which the world has never encountered previously, and one that doesn’t fight by the rules of any civilised nation, and on the other hand our moral code determines that we cannot resort to what we would deem unacceptable warfare. Unless ISIL is countered with greater force, more determined energy, and a resolve to destroy them regardless of method, there is nothing that can be done. We are fighting with one hand voluntarily tied behind our back.
// but wonder if the first kidnapping incident was seen as a moral issue one could get behind, but subsequent similar situations risk setting a president of needing to respond to every cause brought to their attention with the same vigour//
I don't accept that theory. If we are talking about morals then surely what has happened to the Yazidis should rank very highly. This is not a case of numbers or precedent setting, it is about an international response that, if anything, should be tackled with more vigour.
I don't accept that theory. If we are talking about morals then surely what has happened to the Yazidis should rank very highly. This is not a case of numbers or precedent setting, it is about an international response that, if anything, should be tackled with more vigour.
@ Naomi
// Unless ISIL is countered with greater force, more determined energy, and a resolve to destroy them regardless of method, there is nothing that can be done. We are fighting with one hand voluntarily tied behind our back.//
Absolutely correct. The predicament of the captured women is not going to end until the ante is increased. The Iraqi MP makes a similar point, more needs to be done but we are imposing our own constraints which is preventing the rate of progress which is necessary.
Where is the collective conscience?
Who are the strategists with the great minds to deal with this type of enemy? It is not someone elses problem
// Unless ISIL is countered with greater force, more determined energy, and a resolve to destroy them regardless of method, there is nothing that can be done. We are fighting with one hand voluntarily tied behind our back.//
Absolutely correct. The predicament of the captured women is not going to end until the ante is increased. The Iraqi MP makes a similar point, more needs to be done but we are imposing our own constraints which is preventing the rate of progress which is necessary.
Where is the collective conscience?
Who are the strategists with the great minds to deal with this type of enemy? It is not someone elses problem
@OG
// Again and again and again ?Authority figures aren't going to be forced to be at the call of every request.///
I refer to the OP. The outcry and response against the kidnapping of girls by Boko Haram was given serious attention. The same cannot be said of the Yazidis. It is a complete travesty.
// Again and again and again ?Authority figures aren't going to be forced to be at the call of every request.///
I refer to the OP. The outcry and response against the kidnapping of girls by Boko Haram was given serious attention. The same cannot be said of the Yazidis. It is a complete travesty.
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More disinterest from the US.....
More disinterest from the US.....
It is unfortunate that the barbaric idiots seem to have virtually free reign in the Middle East. What can be done?
Iraq is now supposed to be phasing out its nuclear war development programs. Do we rekindle the "cold war" by interfering in Its internal business? Apart from offering aid to fight the cruel custom, I can't see what the Western world can do.
Iraq is now supposed to be phasing out its nuclear war development programs. Do we rekindle the "cold war" by interfering in Its internal business? Apart from offering aid to fight the cruel custom, I can't see what the Western world can do.
//Where is the collective conscience?//
Unfortunately for the Yazidis the collective conscience also takes into account the ‘collateral damage’ that would result should greater force be utilised. It seems our lofty moral codes can be detrimental to our own success – and in this instance potentially to our own well-being and security.
Unfortunately for the Yazidis the collective conscience also takes into account the ‘collateral damage’ that would result should greater force be utilised. It seems our lofty moral codes can be detrimental to our own success – and in this instance potentially to our own well-being and security.
@ Zacs
// So how do you know it's even possible to target anywhere? I don't believe it is.//
Neither of us can know as we are not in receipt of any Intelligence. We have to trust that all that can be done is being done to fight this enemy but my question remains, is enough being done to locate and liberate the Yazidi women?
// So how do you know it's even possible to target anywhere? I don't believe it is.//
Neither of us can know as we are not in receipt of any Intelligence. We have to trust that all that can be done is being done to fight this enemy but my question remains, is enough being done to locate and liberate the Yazidi women?
agchristie -
In my opinion, both the Obama's are band-wagon jumpers. She saw it as an opportunity to promote herself on the world stage as a caring, humanitarian who was gravely concerned about the plight of those kidnapped Christian school girls by the modern day horror known as Islamic Fundamentalism (Boko Haram in this case). So concerned was she that she sent both a tweet *and* a photograph of herself looking sad and holding a placard.
However, change the story slightly by altering the religion of the victims and the tale is a different one: silence. Admittedly this is true not just of the Obamas but of western Christian societies in general.
That being said, I think it was a cynical move on Mrs Obama's part and the proof of this is her apparent indifference (indicated by her continued silence) to the fate of thousands of Yazidis. Unfortunately for those girls (and boys, women and men) they're not Christians so most people in the good-old-US-of-A don't give a rat's ass.
Sad but true.
In my opinion, both the Obama's are band-wagon jumpers. She saw it as an opportunity to promote herself on the world stage as a caring, humanitarian who was gravely concerned about the plight of those kidnapped Christian school girls by the modern day horror known as Islamic Fundamentalism (Boko Haram in this case). So concerned was she that she sent both a tweet *and* a photograph of herself looking sad and holding a placard.
However, change the story slightly by altering the religion of the victims and the tale is a different one: silence. Admittedly this is true not just of the Obamas but of western Christian societies in general.
That being said, I think it was a cynical move on Mrs Obama's part and the proof of this is her apparent indifference (indicated by her continued silence) to the fate of thousands of Yazidis. Unfortunately for those girls (and boys, women and men) they're not Christians so most people in the good-old-US-of-A don't give a rat's ass.
Sad but true.
