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RATTER15 | 10:37 Sat 21st Jan 2012 | ChatterBank
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Religion is a by product of fear. For much of human history, it may have been a necessary evil, but why was it more evil than necessary?

-- Arthur C. Clarke
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Religion is brain washing to control people look at islam
I wouldn't pick out Islam particularly, redvanman - look at fundamentalist American Christianity, too.
You are right they are all the same ban the lot
Strange, isn't it, that when this subject is discussed, the admirable side of the subject is ignored completely?

It's possible that England would still be providing slave ships to transport human cargo had it not been for the lifelong efforts of men like William Wilberforce and Thomas Clarkson (founder of The Society for Effecting the Abolition of the Slave Trade) who, motivated entirely by their Christian views, worked for and achieved the Slave Trade Act of 1807, which ended British trade in slaves. Both (and many others) went to their graves fighting against such injustices.
Here in the U.S. the 'Underground Railroad' ... a system of churches (and others) that helped escaped slaves move through a series of 'safe houses' to Canada and other destinations. The system was supported by numerous churches and allied church groups such as Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), Congregationalists, Wesleyans, and Reformed Presbyterians, Baptists and Methodists.
During our 'Civil War' nearly 500,000 men gave their lives to free the slaves, motivated, in large part, by their Christian views.
Even in the 1950's and 60's, during the height of the 'Civil
Rights' struggle, Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr., and a lot all the other leaders (both black and white) came from Christian churches.
Strangely (or so it seems) the first relief of natural disasters comes from dedicated Christian organizations. Remember the tsunami of Christmas Day in Sumatra a few years ago? First on the scene was "Gospel for Asia (GFA) who had more than 200 workers in the affected areas within a day, and son after had more than 1,000 of its 15,000 native missionaries involved in the relief efforts in India, Sri Lanka and the Andaman Islands." Quite a while before any governmental relief was effective.

On and on it goes. Have there been abuses by organized religion? Absolutely, but one cannot fairly judge them by only those stats.

So, how's this mind control thing working? I certainly don't see it here in the U.S., but then perhaps there's more evidence of it in Europe and the U.K.
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Clanad, Its far worse in the USA, after reading your post you are clearly affected, how blind can some people be!? pop into R & S and see some of the questions and answers there. Not that you could possibly be convinced of anything!
Clanad, so Christians didn't buy or use slaves then?
lol Ratter is starting to sound like a professional atheist...............
Slavery wasn't the real reason for the American civil war, and look at the intolerant attitude people of faith have for one another, a few examples of good men, but that doesn't excuse the rest who have used their religion as an excuse to conquer and murder their fellow men and women.
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‎"When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be punished; for the slave is his money."
..........Exodus 21:20
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Well craft, once a pest controller always a pest controller, just some pests are more ingrained and spread further a field!!
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Dammit I have just noticed my spelling in the heading!!!

"Quote"
Careful ratter, you're starting to sound like Elderman in reverse................
that would namredel then....
For ratter ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibmcsEGLKo
Close em.................
it took the greatest comedian to make it..
craft, my eyes are going, namredle, more suited wouldn't you think.
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em10, actually it would be namredle! :))
So, what's the error in my post, Ratter? I was simply pointing out the historical facts, to which a circumspect answer is "...Its far worse in the USA, after reading your post you are clearly affected, how blind can some people be!?" Unique concept...
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