Tommy Robinson Against Child Grooming

[TheDevil]

If Tommy Robinson was so concerned about child grooming, then why isn't he and his boys protesting against Prince Andrew and his connection to child groomer Jeffrey Epstein?

[pixie374]

It is, Jack, but "child grooming" implies "children.

[TheDevil]

"Probably because there's no evidence that he's broken any laws"

That is not true.

"The law says that a 16- or 17-year-old can consent to sexual activities. But it is still a crime to take part in sexual activities with a 16- or 17-year-old if these elements are proved: The person accused of the crime was in a position of authority or trust toward the young person."

Prince Andrew, allegedly had sexual relations with a 17 year old on more than one occasion. She said so herself.

Prince Andrew was in a position of authority and trust toward the young person.

[hereIam]

I know I shouldn't ask this, but I can't resist. Is TheDevil really spath ??

[pixie374]

Has to be.... I'm sure all will become clear x

[TheDevil]

I find that answer quite objectionable.

What do you mean by the term "spath"?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Spath

[jackthehat]

I know.
'TheDevil' regards Epstein as a 'child-groomer' and I believe (not for the first time) that his words are ill-chosen.
These young women were not 'children', which is not saying that I condone the actions of Epstein nor his procuratrix, Maxwell.
TheDevil - Not all instances of inappropriate sexual behaviour or coercion are comparable.

[hereIam]

I'm sure it will pixie x

[Jackdaw33]

Now you've got me thinking. You might have hit the nail on the head.

[jackthehat]

//Prince Andrew, allegedly had sexual relations with a 17 year old on more than one occasion. She said so herself.///

He says he didn't.

//Prince Andrew was in a position of authority and trust toward the young person. ///

He wasn't. They were, allegedly, at a party.

[TheDevil]

Jackthehat - "his words are ill-chosen"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/21/british-victim-sex-offender-jeffrey-epstein-speaks-ordeal/

I am not one to victim shame. I believe people who speak out against abuse.

[TheDevil]

Jackthehat - "He wasn't. They were, allegedly, at a party."

The Duke of York is part of the United Kingdom's peerage. I would expect that puts him in a position of both trust an authority.

[jackthehat]

Yes.
Epstein was a sexual predator of post-pubescent girls?
*Not* a paedophile, then....

[jackthehat]

///The Duke of York is part of the United Kingdom's peerage. I would expect that puts him in a position of both trust an authority. //

That's the trouble......it's your (erroneous) expectation....

[pixie374]

Is your post about Epstein or Prince Andrew? We all seem to be discussing different things.

[naomi24]

... or Tommy Robinson? Another trip around the houses.

[TheDevil]

Jackthehat - "*Not* a paedophile, then...."

I've not even mentioned the word in relation to any of the men in discussion.

[emmie]

some accusers have been younger than seventeen..

[TheDevil]

This chat room is quite fast-paced. I am struggling to answer everybody.

[jackthehat]

Excellent.
So we can now be sure it won't be mentioned in future.
So, as mentioned above; is this about Tommy Robinson, Epstein or Prince Andrew?

[pixie374]

Thedevil, could you please just tell me the difference, in your view, between "child groomer" and "paedophile"?
I know you dislike "terminology", but it is helpful if we can all understand each other.