Statehood/Nationhood

[graemer]

Why is it the state of Israel rather than the nation of Israel? When do you become a country?

[Loosehead]

Different terms for the same thing

[kaktus]

A nation is a group of people who has the same language, culture etc. which means that there can be more than one nation in a state.

A state is a political community with sovereignty within it's defined borders. It can also be defined as having the right to legitimate violence, I think it was Max Weber who said that.  

 

I'm not entirely sure on when something is a country. But I think that it is possible for a more than one country to be part of a state, so i guess being a country has more to do with nations than states. Maybe someone else can enlighten you... :-) But one thing I know for sure is that a nation and a state is not the same, even though a state can be a nationstate (when the state only consist of or there is a very large majority of one nation )

hope I'm not to confusing :-)

[kaktus]

A nation is a group of people who has the same language, culture etc. which means that there can be more than one nation in a state.

A state is a political community with sovereignty within it's defined borders. It can also be defined as having the right to legitimate violence, I think it was Max Weber who said that.  

 

I'm not entirely sure on when something is a country. But I think that it is possible for a more than one country to be part of a state, so i guess being a country has more to do with nations than states. Maybe someone else can enlighten you... :-) But one thing I know for sure is that a nation and a state is not the same, even though a state can be a nationstate (when the state only consist of, or there is a very large majority, of one nation )

hope I'm not to confusing :-)

[kaktus]

and sorry for the double post, :-)

[graemer]

Thanks kaktus...I sort of get it but not quite because it sounds like you could have lots of nations in the State of Israel if you wanted.