another knife death in london....

[stokemaveric]

gang warfare and another kid goes to his grave...oh well the govt is going soft on criminals.... expect more of the same....

[MarkRae]

It's a national tragedy. Everybody is so busy trying to work out whose fault it is that nobody is actually doing anything about it...

[ELVIS68]

Probably black on black again

Just done jury service where a black kid stabbed another kid in the stomach so severely his bowel was hanging out, he admitted having the knife and admitted that he caused the injury but amazingly 3 jury members wouldn`t go with the more serious charge of gbh with intent because they wasn`t convinced he intended to cause him serious injury when he stabbed him

[ummmm]

Of course you don't mean to hurt someone you stab...!!!

[MarkRae]

> 3 jury members wouldn`t go with the more serious charge of gbh with intent because they [wasn`t] weren't convinced he intended to cause him serious injury when he stabbed him

Bl00dy lily-livered liberals - they're what's wrong with the country...

[ummmm]

-answer removed- lol

[ELVIS68]

wasn`t... weren`t ....does it matter?

[stokemaveric]

mmmm elvis your choice of words are indeed errrr colourful shall we sy but yes you are right a 15 year old black schoolboy was stabbed in london in a ''gangland style'' attack...apparently it had been simmering for weeks oh well 1 less piece of scum off the streets i suppose ''killed befor his prime''...lets hope they put his murderers behind bars..but it will only be a matter of time before it happens again...

[VHG]

Unfortunately uncontrolled immigration by the last Labour goverment has lowered the level of this country to a poor third world African state.

Well done Blair and Brown, thanks a lot.

[ELVIS68]

stokie, those choice of words are from my mate who is black...he doesn`t want them to be named as black people, they are as he says are "N!ggers"

Fair point if you ask me

[stokemaveric]

thats right vhg and the black ghetto knife culture is all to common on our streets now..things like this were relativeley unheard of on this scale 10-20 years ago..although we did actively encourage jamaican/carribbean cultures to come here in the 50s and 60s...maybe the world has just become more evil no matter what culture you descend from....

[stokemaveric]

elvis i too have black friends,and they say exactly the same thing...there are good and bad in every culture eh???

[Zeuhl]

///Unfortunately uncontrolled immigration by the last Labour goverment has lowered the level of this country to a poor third world African state.///

!!!

Someone obviously hasn't visited many poor third world African states.

Or many parts of this country for that matter!
There was a shanty town in Somerset recently I believe, but then The Glastonbury Festival finished.
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[trt]

So sorry for the kids parents, but its the same old story, black people again.

[sp1814]

Perhaps what we need is a load of white kids to be killed in knife attacks...?

Perhaps that will get people to sit up and listen.

If it's only black lads dying, then it gives people the get out clause of "oh well 1 less piece of scum off the streets i suppose".

We need a load of white mums and dads crying their eyes out on News AT Ten as they bury their kids, don't we? Otherwise, there's a danger of people assuming it's nothing to do with them.

It's a terrible conclusion to make - but pretty soon, we're going to get to a point where an other black boy dying will just make people say "Oh well, here we go again."

Once white middle class kids become victims, perhaps something will be done?

[sandyRoe]

Youngsters who use knives clearly have no regard for their victims. Maybe society needs to show them the consequences of their violent behaviour for themselves. Spending years of their lives locked up in a cell isn't a very appealing prospect. I think most of these crimes result in convictions. If they had an idea of the grim reality of prison life they might be less inclined to use a knife.

[naomi24]

//pretty soon, we're going to get to a point where an other black boy dying will just make people say "Oh well, here we go again." //

sp, I think that point has already been reached, White working class kids are no poorer, there are no less broken homes within their communities, and they are no less educated than their black neighbours - in fact a recent report shows white working class kids are failing dismally where education is concerned, whereas those from poor Indian and Chinese backgrounds fare much better, so to imply that white children are somehow privileged is a denial of reality. It's time we stopped making feeble excuses based upon stupid prejudices of 'colour' and 'class' and started talking about the real issue of 'culture', because therein lies the problem. The fact is this is happening within some black communities because this is the way these people choose to live, and no amount of stabbings of white kids will change that. Change can only come from within.

[jacksprat16]

its 90% blacks who are involved in shootings and stabbings, not so much the Asians and strangely enough you never hear of any trouble of this kind from the Chinese population over here ?

[DrFilth]

gangs with knives, the occasional firearm, judges too soft, sentences too lenient and innocent bystanders maimed, injured and murdered.

was the above said
a, yesterday
b, 10 years ago
c, 30 years ago





sorry this was over 100 years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scuttlers

http://www.amazon.co....ritains/dp/1903854814

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...terview_feature.shtml


it must be true the bbc have even published articles on scuttlers

to those of you who do not know about the old districts of manchester

friedrich engels (His father sent the young Engels to England in 1842 to help manage his cotton factory in Manchester. Shocked by the widespread poverty, Engels began writing an account which he published in 1845 as The Condition of the Working Class in England in 1844 )

he described redbank as hell on earth

[DrFilth]

jacksprat ( strangely enough you never hear of any trouble of this kind from the Chinese population over here ? )

http://menmedia.co.uk...ed_in_chinatown_fight