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Is Global Warming exaggerated?
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We keep hearing about Global Warming being a threat to the Planet because the ice packs are melting.
However glaciers and ice packs have constantly been receding since the last Ice Age. It is only in recent years that scientists have been measuring the receding ice, and have drawn the wrong conclusions.
However glaciers and ice packs have constantly been receding since the last Ice Age. It is only in recent years that scientists have been measuring the receding ice, and have drawn the wrong conclusions.
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Probably,but it has given politicians a tax grabbing excuse. I note that the tv blurb on Global Warming shows a young girl running up the beach to get away from advancing high waves which I presume can only be a Tsunami. I was not aware that Global Warming caused Tsunamis I think it is an earthquake. Also the blurb show a emitting cooling tower. Cooling Towers emit steam from the cooling of the pipework and thus it is water vapour which will fall back as rain.
Strangely we never hear anything now regarding the hole in the ozone layer which a few years ago was going to burn us all up
Strangely we never hear anything now regarding the hole in the ozone layer which a few years ago was going to burn us all up
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Those pesky scientists. So dumb, so untrained as to completely miss that staggeringly, glaringly obvious piece of evidence you have just pointed out bob.Such incisive insights are wasted in a general forum like this. I urge you not to hesitate, but immediately write to the head sciencey person at the Royal Society, and offer to educate them all in their wrongness. I am sure they will be amazed at how they managed to miss this observation, and wonder how on earth they could have drawn the wrong conclusions.
You will probably get elected as Head of Science Stuff-maybe even get a medal, or the Nobel Prize!!
Lose no time - write today!
http://royalsociety.o...t-and-Climate-Change/
You will probably get elected as Head of Science Stuff-maybe even get a medal, or the Nobel Prize!!
Lose no time - write today!
http://royalsociety.o...t-and-Climate-Change/
LazyGun - “Those pesky scientists”
You're not wrong. What with them deliberately falsifying data (then deleting said data), instructing others to delete data that may disprove their position, actively and openly discussing ways and means to prevent scientists with alternative views from getting their scientifically tested results into the mainstream media, etc. They certainly are 'pesky' aren't they?
When politics intrudes into the world of science, dishonesty ensues. Politics debases everything it touches because it pretends to know all the answers. For example...
The IPCC's (a political body, not an independent scientific organisation) mission statement is:
"The role of the IPCC is to assess on a comprehensive, objective, open and transparent basis the scientific, technical and socio-economic information relevant to understanding the scientific basis of risk of human-induced climate change"
So the IPCC has already decided that Climate Change is actually happening and that man is the cause of Climate Change.
So much for objectivity.
Mr L. Gun. If you worked for an organisation who's very existence depended on 'proving' the existence of Man-Made Climate Change, how keen would you be to look at the conflicting evidence objectively?
You're not wrong. What with them deliberately falsifying data (then deleting said data), instructing others to delete data that may disprove their position, actively and openly discussing ways and means to prevent scientists with alternative views from getting their scientifically tested results into the mainstream media, etc. They certainly are 'pesky' aren't they?
When politics intrudes into the world of science, dishonesty ensues. Politics debases everything it touches because it pretends to know all the answers. For example...
The IPCC's (a political body, not an independent scientific organisation) mission statement is:
"The role of the IPCC is to assess on a comprehensive, objective, open and transparent basis the scientific, technical and socio-economic information relevant to understanding the scientific basis of risk of human-induced climate change"
So the IPCC has already decided that Climate Change is actually happening and that man is the cause of Climate Change.
So much for objectivity.
Mr L. Gun. If you worked for an organisation who's very existence depended on 'proving' the existence of Man-Made Climate Change, how keen would you be to look at the conflicting evidence objectively?
Bob - You really want us to take, as serious evidence, the disputed interpretations of a map drawn in the 1500s by a handful of lets be charitable, and call them "scholars of dubious provenance" ? Half of them claim that this knowledge of an ice free antartica is transmitted from aliens, the other half an ice age civilisation!
Global warming is a good thing sure, up to a point. As I am sure your mum told you Bob, too much of a good thing can be very bad for you.
Birdie - I am sorry, but you continually post on this subject and you sound increasingly like Answerbanks very own Fox Mulder - Everything is a "conspiracy", and " The Truth is Out There"! I can't take anything you say on this subject seriously.
You need to write to Interpol, or the FBI, get them to investigate your allegations of this shadowy network of dishonest politicians and crooked scientists, all of whom are conspiring to tax us more, or deprive us all of 4x4s, ,or keep us all scared so they can manipulate us, or whatever reason there is for the alleged cover up. You never know, they may award you with a junior detective badge!
Show me one serious organised body of science, one credible national scientific authority that seriously disputes that global warming is occuring, that if it gets significantly hotter humanity will have some serious problems to resolve, or that humanity is having some effect on global warming and I might think about taking some of your claims more seriously. Oh, i forgot - you can't, because they are all, without reservation, involved in the conspiracy. And by serious scientific authority, I don't mean psuedoscience sites like WatsUpWithThat, or Lawsons foundation, or anything from the frothing at the mouth loon Monkton.
Global warming is a good thing sure, up to a point. As I am sure your mum told you Bob, too much of a good thing can be very bad for you.
Birdie - I am sorry, but you continually post on this subject and you sound increasingly like Answerbanks very own Fox Mulder - Everything is a "conspiracy", and " The Truth is Out There"! I can't take anything you say on this subject seriously.
You need to write to Interpol, or the FBI, get them to investigate your allegations of this shadowy network of dishonest politicians and crooked scientists, all of whom are conspiring to tax us more, or deprive us all of 4x4s, ,or keep us all scared so they can manipulate us, or whatever reason there is for the alleged cover up. You never know, they may award you with a junior detective badge!
Show me one serious organised body of science, one credible national scientific authority that seriously disputes that global warming is occuring, that if it gets significantly hotter humanity will have some serious problems to resolve, or that humanity is having some effect on global warming and I might think about taking some of your claims more seriously. Oh, i forgot - you can't, because they are all, without reservation, involved in the conspiracy. And by serious scientific authority, I don't mean psuedoscience sites like WatsUpWithThat, or Lawsons foundation, or anything from the frothing at the mouth loon Monkton.
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Got to agree with Birdie on this. I believe the "science" of recent years has been biased. Once a bandwagon has started rolling, it's a hell of a job to get off it, let alone slow it down or stop it.I imagine most scientists need funding to pursue their research and it stands to reason that that funding is more likely to be given to lines of reearch which "go with the flow" rather than against it. The institutes which give the funding do not want to lose their credibility.
It's refreshing to see that there are a few more voices now being heard questioning the science. A balanced view is surely necessary, and people need to start thinking for themselves, not trotting out newspaper headlines and politicians' sound bites.
My own opinion is that global warming may well be happening as it has over millenia. Whether man is to blame, or more importantly, whether we can actually do anything to reverse it, is highly debatable. What annoys me is the way politicians are using it as a smokescreen to impose "green taxes" , and for manufacturers to promote their "green cars" etc.
I think that if the science is so convincing, we should start now in preparing and adapting. Surely we're clever enough to come to grips with something which may happen in fifty years or more.
It's refreshing to see that there are a few more voices now being heard questioning the science. A balanced view is surely necessary, and people need to start thinking for themselves, not trotting out newspaper headlines and politicians' sound bites.
My own opinion is that global warming may well be happening as it has over millenia. Whether man is to blame, or more importantly, whether we can actually do anything to reverse it, is highly debatable. What annoys me is the way politicians are using it as a smokescreen to impose "green taxes" , and for manufacturers to promote their "green cars" etc.
I think that if the science is so convincing, we should start now in preparing and adapting. Surely we're clever enough to come to grips with something which may happen in fifty years or more.
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And what percentage of the 2 Triillion air miles travelled each year - do you think is undertaken by journalists?
This isn't a problem that will be solved by taking a holiday every other year or a few journalist travelling a bit less it requires laws to change peoples behaviour.
I think a lot of people are begining to realise that now which is why there's suddenly so much squeeling
This isn't a problem that will be solved by taking a holiday every other year or a few journalist travelling a bit less it requires laws to change peoples behaviour.
I think a lot of people are begining to realise that now which is why there's suddenly so much squeeling
I think actually Geezer what we see is:
It isn't happening - but if it is it's not man made - but if it is man made there's nothing we can do about it - but if there is then it's too late - but if it's not too late it's too expensive.
In other words the argument keeps shifting to avoid being pinned down
a bit like
"I wasn't with your sister - but if I was I didn't touch her - but if I did I didn't sleep with her - but if I did I didn't enjoy it"
It isn't happening - but if it is it's not man made - but if it is man made there's nothing we can do about it - but if there is then it's too late - but if it's not too late it's too expensive.
In other words the argument keeps shifting to avoid being pinned down
a bit like
"I wasn't with your sister - but if I was I didn't touch her - but if I did I didn't sleep with her - but if I did I didn't enjoy it"
The yardstick I use is the politicians reactions to a crisis.
Iraq posed WMD so we spent £9 billion on it withiin a short period of time
Afghanistan is the home of Al Qaeda terrorists who threaten to destroy us so we have spent £8bn and much more to come.
We are threatened with rising sea levels through global warming that will destroy large parts of the country. and we spent £600 million last year.
Come off it, who are they trying to fool?
Iraq posed WMD so we spent £9 billion on it withiin a short period of time
Afghanistan is the home of Al Qaeda terrorists who threaten to destroy us so we have spent £8bn and much more to come.
We are threatened with rising sea levels through global warming that will destroy large parts of the country. and we spent £600 million last year.
Come off it, who are they trying to fool?
Yup pretty sad isn't it?
Truth of the matter is that it is the developing nations who are going to bear the brunt of this. They can best afford sea walls, air conditioning etc.
The UK is going to be one of the affected least - you can bet if the boot were on the other foot and something devoping countries were doing was seriously affecting Western countries there'd be soldiers in in no time.
Oh- yes so there is- right!
Truth of the matter is that it is the developing nations who are going to bear the brunt of this. They can best afford sea walls, air conditioning etc.
The UK is going to be one of the affected least - you can bet if the boot were on the other foot and something devoping countries were doing was seriously affecting Western countries there'd be soldiers in in no time.
Oh- yes so there is- right!
That climate change is happening is indisputable. However how how much man has to do with it is totaly disputable.
There has long been a consenus that we are at the end of an ice age and what is happening is natural and as many on here have pointed out this gets very little publicity.
Some say that CO2 emmissions are responisble others say that man made CO2 is a negligable contributer.
However the hole in the ozone layer is closing - That didn't make many front pages oh no money in that.
I have no idea what's wrong or whats right but I know I hear an awful lot of one argument and not a lot of the other
There has long been a consenus that we are at the end of an ice age and what is happening is natural and as many on here have pointed out this gets very little publicity.
Some say that CO2 emmissions are responisble others say that man made CO2 is a negligable contributer.
However the hole in the ozone layer is closing - That didn't make many front pages oh no money in that.
I have no idea what's wrong or whats right but I know I hear an awful lot of one argument and not a lot of the other
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