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What Is Going Off? All Down To 'lad Culture' It Seems.
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In my day the nearest a lad got to committing a sexual act against a girl, was chasing them after school in a catch and kiss game.
But then we had separated schools, Boy's Entrance and Girl's Entrance.
Could it be there is too much familiarity among the young sexes these days?
Or (ducks under the desk) too much sex education?
In my day the nearest a lad got to committing a sexual act against a girl, was chasing them after school in a catch and kiss game.
But then we had separated schools, Boy's Entrance and Girl's Entrance.
Could it be there is too much familiarity among the young sexes these days?
Or (ducks under the desk) too much sex education?
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Each time this sort of discussion crops up, I post a version of the same response - so here it is again.
The majority of issues that afflict society stem from one core issue - lack of respect.
There is lack of respect for authority, for other people, and the core is a lack of self respect.
The answer is simple - switch the vast amount of funding that goes into further education, where it often wasted and misused, and switch it to pre-school and nursery education.
If you can start a generation with a built-in understanding of appreciation of self and others, then that will filter into a teenage and adult population who appreciate differences, and respect and care for other people, in contrast the uniformly selfish and self-centred attitudes that poison modern society and culture.
This will take a couple of generations to work, and it will never ever happen.
Why?
Because governments only like spending on something that can wave at voters at the next election, not something with will benefit future governments, even though a bigger forward vision will sort out the issues, politicians are rampant short-termists.
In addition - nursery education is not 'sexy' for politicians - you only have to examine the pay rates for staff charged with forming the attitudes and personalities of future teens and adults - they earn minimum wages, which is never going to attract the calibre of people you need for something as fundamentally essential as guiding a future generation into being decent productive human beings.
While successive governments deride, ignore, underfund and underestimate the value of pre-school and nursery education, you will continue to have nurseries staffed by young people who vaguely think they like children, and aren't sure what else to do.
We need professional motivated trained people to run properly funded maintained and valued pre-school and nursery centres to build the proper trust and attitudes in small children, so they can take those aptitudes with them into adulthood, and start to repair the damage that
The majority of issues that afflict society stem from one core issue - lack of respect.
There is lack of respect for authority, for other people, and the core is a lack of self respect.
The answer is simple - switch the vast amount of funding that goes into further education, where it often wasted and misused, and switch it to pre-school and nursery education.
If you can start a generation with a built-in understanding of appreciation of self and others, then that will filter into a teenage and adult population who appreciate differences, and respect and care for other people, in contrast the uniformly selfish and self-centred attitudes that poison modern society and culture.
This will take a couple of generations to work, and it will never ever happen.
Why?
Because governments only like spending on something that can wave at voters at the next election, not something with will benefit future governments, even though a bigger forward vision will sort out the issues, politicians are rampant short-termists.
In addition - nursery education is not 'sexy' for politicians - you only have to examine the pay rates for staff charged with forming the attitudes and personalities of future teens and adults - they earn minimum wages, which is never going to attract the calibre of people you need for something as fundamentally essential as guiding a future generation into being decent productive human beings.
While successive governments deride, ignore, underfund and underestimate the value of pre-school and nursery education, you will continue to have nurseries staffed by young people who vaguely think they like children, and aren't sure what else to do.
We need professional motivated trained people to run properly funded maintained and valued pre-school and nursery centres to build the proper trust and attitudes in small children, so they can take those aptitudes with them into adulthood, and start to repair the damage that
fiction-factory
That was the way schools were run back then, too many distractions, showing off in front of the girls these days.
Could that be the reason that girls become the better achievers than the boys?
/// In 2001, a British study concluded that nearly every girl regardless of her ability or socioeconomic status performed better in single sex classrooms than co-ed ones. The study of study of 2954 high schools and 979 primary schools showed that while boys at the lowest ends academically improved the most in single sex schools, single-sex education was particularly beneficial to girls. Every one of the top fifty elementary schools and top twenty high schools in Britain are single sex schools. ///
That was the way schools were run back then, too many distractions, showing off in front of the girls these days.
Could that be the reason that girls become the better achievers than the boys?
/// In 2001, a British study concluded that nearly every girl regardless of her ability or socioeconomic status performed better in single sex classrooms than co-ed ones. The study of study of 2954 high schools and 979 primary schools showed that while boys at the lowest ends academically improved the most in single sex schools, single-sex education was particularly beneficial to girls. Every one of the top fifty elementary schools and top twenty high schools in Britain are single sex schools. ///
andy-hughes
It is not about throwing money around whoever is the recipient.
This explanation is not going to be accepted by most these days, but it is all down to the demise of Christian religious teachings.
Yes I know many bad things have happened due to religion, but in the past even the most rough areas of Britain maintained a certain amount of self respect, and respect for their fellow man to a certain extent.
Call it fear of being dammed for all eternity, not being welcomed in heaven or not pleasing God, call it what you like, but it seemed to work and had done for thousands of years.
Just to make it clear, I am no religious fanatic or even a 'bible basher' as some would wish to call one, but over the many years of my life I have come to learn, if one sticks to much of the 10 commandments, one cannot go far wrong in life.
It is not about throwing money around whoever is the recipient.
This explanation is not going to be accepted by most these days, but it is all down to the demise of Christian religious teachings.
Yes I know many bad things have happened due to religion, but in the past even the most rough areas of Britain maintained a certain amount of self respect, and respect for their fellow man to a certain extent.
Call it fear of being dammed for all eternity, not being welcomed in heaven or not pleasing God, call it what you like, but it seemed to work and had done for thousands of years.
Just to make it clear, I am no religious fanatic or even a 'bible basher' as some would wish to call one, but over the many years of my life I have come to learn, if one sticks to much of the 10 commandments, one cannot go far wrong in life.
Presumably, only the second half or so of the Ten Commandments.
Problem is that your view of the past is more than a little rose-tinted, no? From within the Christian morality that "seemed to work", we had a situation where, for example, homosexuality was discouraged, actively suppressed and even criminalised. This was and is wrong. We had a situation of inequality of power between the genders. We had a situation where complaining about abuse was viewed as far more of a "crime" than the abuse itself. All of these things serve to make the past look "rosier", because anything that didn't fit the rosy picture was suppressed, hushed up, and not talked about. Regardless of whether or not the levels have increased, it must be seen as preferable that we now feel far more free to talk about them.
Returning to a world where the conversation is discouraged is a backwards step.
Problem is that your view of the past is more than a little rose-tinted, no? From within the Christian morality that "seemed to work", we had a situation where, for example, homosexuality was discouraged, actively suppressed and even criminalised. This was and is wrong. We had a situation of inequality of power between the genders. We had a situation where complaining about abuse was viewed as far more of a "crime" than the abuse itself. All of these things serve to make the past look "rosier", because anything that didn't fit the rosy picture was suppressed, hushed up, and not talked about. Regardless of whether or not the levels have increased, it must be seen as preferable that we now feel far more free to talk about them.
Returning to a world where the conversation is discouraged is a backwards step.
Jim - I would entirely agree.
The notion that Christian teaching in some way made for a better society is to my mind seriously flawed.
The physical mental and sexual abuse that was hushed up in years gone by means that such restrictive attitudes have no place in a modern society.
Fear and abuse unacknowledged was not a society model we should be proud of, and certainly never consider as a suitable solution to today's issues.
The notion that Christian teaching in some way made for a better society is to my mind seriously flawed.
The physical mental and sexual abuse that was hushed up in years gone by means that such restrictive attitudes have no place in a modern society.
Fear and abuse unacknowledged was not a society model we should be proud of, and certainly never consider as a suitable solution to today's issues.
jim360
As I already said in my post "Yes I know many bad things have happened due to religion".
/// Returning to a world where the conversation is discouraged is a backwards step. ///
Picked the wrong statement there Jim, we have not 'RETURNED' to a world where the conversation is discouraged, we already live in such a situation.
As I already said in my post "Yes I know many bad things have happened due to religion".
/// Returning to a world where the conversation is discouraged is a backwards step. ///
Picked the wrong statement there Jim, we have not 'RETURNED' to a world where the conversation is discouraged, we already live in such a situation.
andy-hughes
/// The physical mental and sexual abuse that was hushed up in years gone by means that such restrictive attitudes have no place in a modern society. ///
And you don't think that such 'hushing up' does not take place today?
Why even the authorities are guilty of such things, all in the fear of being called certain names.
/// The physical mental and sexual abuse that was hushed up in years gone by means that such restrictive attitudes have no place in a modern society. ///
And you don't think that such 'hushing up' does not take place today?
Why even the authorities are guilty of such things, all in the fear of being called certain names.
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