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johnpiper | 20:54 Sat 06th Dec 2008 | Crosswords
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5 across One between two ponies, perhaps able to run(6)

8 down making small changes to gear outwardly sound as a bell (10)
11 across
One failing to cut speed of light from shutter and
3 down
A pair fencing in a field had stirring effect (8)
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5a - liquid.
8d - derogating.
11a - loser.
3d - awakened

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thanks..i thougth it was awakened but couldnt see why-see it is the ddefinition...ditto Loser...all thoughts gretaly received

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