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Isn't It Sad To See Someone Who Once Helped Steer The Ship Of State Reduced To This?

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sandyRoe | 16:05 Mon 23rd Dec 2013 | ChatterBank
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No, the smug b*stard deserves whatever he gets.
23:35 Mon 23rd Dec 2013
Yes

But even sadder to see dodgy beggars like Ed Balls and Yvette Cooper still in positions of power and influence
Absolutely no sympathy!
I find it sadder still that a once great entertainer has been revealed like this: http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/rolf-harris-faces-more-sex-charges-3

At least the expenses row is only about money,
still too many bent M.P's out of prison imo.
No,he nicked the money, no sympathy at all.
There is only one thing sad about this and that demonstrate again that the electorate is saddled with an unusually high proportion of crooks, spivs, fraudsters and shysters among the 1,400 or so self-centred busybodies that infest the two houses of parliament.

“The 65-year-old used the money to fund a series of trips to Europe, including one to judge a literary competition in Paris. The court heard that MacShane incurred "genuine expenses" but chose to recoup them by dishonest false accounting rather than through legitimate claims.”

Nobody would consider it sad if a any other well paid professional defrauded his employer to such a degree.

Furthermore, despite all the reports I have read suggesting that Mr MacShane will serve half of his six month sentence in prison, this is not correct. At present all prisoners serving determinate sentences are released at the halfway point. This is automatic and unconditional. But in addition the current “Home Detention Curfew” scheme allows virtually all prisoners sentenced to between four and twelve months to be released on licence after serving one quarter of their term. So Mr MacShane will be out at the beginning of February (or earlier if he spent any time on remand in custody). Not bad for embezzling £13k. It works out at about the same daily rate as Lord Hanningfield and his chums get for clocking into the House of Lords before promptly clocking out again and going home.
No I dont think it is that sad at all.

When judge McCardie committed suicide in 1923 because of gambling debts, did disappointed litigants say - how sad, or did they protest they would rather have been judged by someone whose mind was on the subject ?

At least we havent plumbed the depths of Sir Joh Bjelke Petersen's cabinet who were all intermittently convicted of fraud and or peculation.


Having been judged morally by someone in this position -who could have recused himself - it engenders lack of respect for official processes. This is actually not in anyone interests. It is also very difficult when you encounter him in the street or wherever not to say: hello you perjuror, richer by your current lies, are you ? as the guards drag you away.
and he of course shouts after you - well yes I am actually - take him away!

Bettino Craxi was convicted of Fraud and the Italian parents would give their children handfuls of small coins (one lira - worth nothing) to throw at his feet as he passed.
he knew exactly what he was doing
he deserves to be jailed
Yvette and Ed are a married couple. I'm often invited to coffee mornings. Never been though. I'm fussy who I drink with.
No, the smug b*stard deserves whatever he gets.
no sandy I have no sympathy for him .
Will he repay any of the stolen money ,or is it just written off?
No sympathy here, he should have got a longer sentence imo.
No sympathy whatsoever. He was a thief and fraudster. And not the only one.
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To be honest, nor had I, but I couldn't think of another way of bringing this to the attention of my fellow ABers without seeming to gloat.
Why is he 'reduced to this'? He hasn't fallen on hard times through no fault of his own. He chose to fiddle his expenses.
I was quite irked by the mitigating circumstances, which whilst they were sad, are no more than thousands of people deal with every day without thieving off others.
As he walked out of court I believe he made the glib statement of quelle surprise. Looks like he's still in denial.
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Durance vile isn't a happy prospect, for anyone.
sandy, you gloat if you want to..............its xmas :)

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