More than 26 anti social incidents in Britain per minute..

[Bobbisox]

I am down as saying not all young ones are bad , they are some mighty decent young folks in our country..
but what would be the answer to this breakdown of law and order?

2 compulsory yrs in the Army?
Why should they deal with the dregs of society?

Stiffer sentences?
Prisons are full to overflowing!!

Maybe ridiculing the offenders in, say, large Stadiums? Hell No! HR would have a field day.

Boot Camps run by ex Army toughies?..sounds good to me

[jake-the-peg]

2 years in the Army?

Squddies are the cause of half the anti-social behaviour!

You want to fix the problem?

Shut pubs - alcohol is related to a huge number of violent and anti-social incidents.

But I'd guess that you don't want to fix the problem badly enough to make sacrifices in the way you live - or am I wrong?

[Bobbisox]

and I should suffer...why?
shut pubs, yeh that would really be good for the man who enjoys a peaceful pint after a hard days graft
and Squddies, I assume you mean squaddies?are the cause of a.s.b
bit of a sweeping statement there jake, tell that to the parents of the ones currently serving in Afghanistan

[jake-the-peg]

Not a sweeping statement when 10% of the prison population are ex-service personnel

[Sqad]

jake...that means 90% are not ex-servicemen.

[Bobbisox]

where is your proof of this?
You maybe right , I don't know, but that would 90% of sqaddies the good guys then eh?

[Sqad]

bobbi....read jake´s post´more cafrefully.....10% of the "prison population"

[jno]

squaddies... retired doctors rampaging round Majorca... definite social evil.

But yes, bobbi, soldiers on the lash in places like Cyprus are a problem; and here, alcoholism is a problem among returning soldiers

http://www.kcl.ac.uk/...ews_id=1206&year=2009

[ummmm]

And why is that Jake?

Joining the army was the only hope they had of getting a job.. Anti-social people join the army as well. They think it's what meat heads do...

The others...maybe they haven't been given the aftercare they needed. Watching your mates get blown to bits can have a long term affect on people...

[jake-the-peg]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7589953.stm

9% think it's gone up a percent since then

Certainly shows the forces is no cure for anti-social behaviour doesn't it?

[Sqad]

jake.....no it doens ´t......all it shows is that 1% of the prison population are ex servicemen, the reason for the imprisonment is multifold.

[Sqad]

jake sorry should have said "1 in 10 of the prison population"

[jake-the-peg]

Why is that JNO?

IMHO it's because the average educational qualification for someone joining the army is 1 GCSE at A-C.

Some get lucky and learn a trade but many just learn how to fight.

They get out and find that they have nothing much more than they went in with.

They'd probably still be in prison without the armed forces background - It's not a cause and it's not a cure - it's a holding pen.

The problem has to be fixed in schools getting kids engaged and giving them a future without them having to opt for the Army as a last resort.

We should keep the armed forces out of schools too. Try to stop low achievers seeing it as a safety net

[Bobbisox]

sqad my hand stings with the slap..lol

and I suggested ex army toughies to run boot camps as I didn't think sending thugs into the forces would be the answer, anyway, what would you do with the 'evil oldies'?

[jake-the-peg]

Give them a computer and introduce them to Answerbank

[Bobbisox]

ha-ha, not a bad answer there jake, I love you in'all ♥

[Sqad]

jake....I have some sympathy with your views, however we have an education system at the moment where there are all winners and no losers and it is difficult to judge today the real educational level of the pupils.

I would agree, why should the Armed Forces take the cr@p of our society?

[anotheoldgit]

jake-the-peg

/// 10% of the prison population are ex-service personnel ///

'Black British nationals accounted for 12 per cent.of the prison population'.

Seems like there is a bigger problem with Blacks.

[R1Geezer]

ummmm, thanks there is no greater reward than having your ideas arued by someone else.

Yes out source the prisons give longer sentences and lock the little sh1te bags up!

[steg]

chain gangs are the answer, make them hand dig and up date the railways, roads, canals, etc. Staying in portable work camps. Make them pay back society with their sweat