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The IPCC needs a radical overhaul. That's putting it mildly...

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birdie1971 | 00:16 Tue 31st Aug 2010 | News
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A new study has shown that the IPCC isn't quite the bastion of good scientific research that it's cracked up to be. What a surprise.

“The review touched on concerns about [Dr] Pachauri's work as an adviser and board member for energy firms, as well as IPCC scientists reviewing their own work.”

Scientists reviewing their own work!?!
The head of the IPCC working as an advisor for energy companies!?!

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKN30195831
http://www.bbc.co.uk/...-environment-11131897
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Don't you need to put in a post about how all the research at the University Of East Anglia Climate Science research was shown to have been faked from the illegall hacking of their e-mails?

Oh no - I remember now there was no criticism of their research at all was there?

No criticism of the fundamental research here either is there - just a big fuss over a marginal error about the speed of himmalayian glacier melting.

That's it?

After all the accusations of a global conspiracy of scientists?

Where's the global damnation of the international "fraud"

Are you now going to admin that human caused global warming is a real effect?
jake, the only thing causing global warming is all the heat created by scientists working hard to protect their research grants...
Global warming no doubt does exist.

It is the caue of it that is at issue. Putting it all to man made causes means we ignore the fact Nature is having a quite normal change and that we should learn how to live with it.

Currently we are burrying our heads in the sand, simply so Governments can tax us to the hilt.
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Jake –

With regards to the leaked emails and program code from the University of East Anglia - ever heard of the term Whitewash? Have you trawled through some of the leaked program code? I doubt it. I have and the admissions made in remark lines by the programmers are absolutely damning.

As to whether I think that global warming (or climate change) is a real effect then I would say yes. But that's not the correct question to ask is it? The correct question to ask is whether anthropogenic CO2 emissions are causing a dangerous warming of the climate.

The answer to that question is – no absolutely not.

Climate change is a natural cycle. It is happening now as it has happened in the past and as it will happen in the future. As you're so confident that mankind has such influential effect of the climate of this planet, maybe you could have a think about the following facts...
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1] About 6,000 years ago, temperatures on the surface of Earth about 3 degrees warmer than currently. The Arctic Ocean is ice-free, and mountain glaciers have disappeared from the mountains of Norway and the Alps in Europe, and from the Rocky Mountains of the United States and Canada. The ocean of the world is some three meters higher than currently. A lot of the present desert of the Sahara has a more humid, savannah-like climate, with giraffes and savannah fauna species.

2] 4,000 years ago to AD 900: Global cooling begins. The Arctic Ocean freezes over, mountain glaciers form once more in the Rocky Mountains, in Norway and in the Alps. The Black Sea freezes over several times, and ice forms on the Nile in Egypt. Northern Europe gets a lot wetter, and the marshes develop again in previously dry areas. The sea level drops to approximately its present level. The temperatures on the surface of the Earth are about 0.5-1 degree cooler than at present.

The causes of this period of cooling are unknown.
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3] AD 1000 to 1500: This period has quick, but uneven, warming of the climate of the Northern Hemisphere. The North Atlantic becomes ice-free and Norse exploration as far as North America takes place. The Norse colonies in Greenland even export crop surpluses to Scandinavia. Wine grapes grow in southern Britain. The temperatures are from 3-8 degrees warmer than currently. The period lasts only a brief 500 years. By the year 1500, it has vanished. The Earth experiences as much warming between the 11th and the 13th century as is now predicted by global-warming scientists for the next century.

The causes of this period of warming are unknown.


4] 1430 to 1880: This is a period of the fast but uneven cooling of Northern Hemisphere climates. Norwegian glaciers advance to their most distant extension in post-glacial times. The northern forests disappear, to be replaced with tundra. Severe winters characterize a lot of Europe and North America. The channels and rivers get colder, the snows get heavy, and the summers cool and short. The temperatures on the surface of the world are about 0.5-1.5 degrees cooler than present. In the United States, 1816 is known as the "year with no summer". Snow falls in New England in June. The widespread failure of crops and deaths due to hypothermia are common.

The causes of this period of cooling are unknown.
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5] 1880 to 1940: A period of warming. The mountain glaciers recede and the ice in the Arctic Ocean begins to melt again.

The causes of this period of warming are unknown.


6] 1940 to 1977: Cooling period. The temperatures are cooler than currently. Mountain glaciers recede, and some begin to advance. The tabloids inform us of widespread catastrophes due to the "New Glaciation".

The causes of this period of cooling are unknown.


7] 1977 to present: Warming period. The summer of 2003 is said to be the warmest one since the Middle Ages. The tabloids notify us of widespread catastrophes due to "global warming".

The causes of warming are discovered - humanity and its carbon-dioxide-generating fossil-fuel use and deforestation.



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