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Is This Lady Really Not A "Proper Muslim"?

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OrcadianOil | 18:13 Mon 30th Nov 2009 | News
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Conservative Peer Baroness Warsi pelted with eggs and verbally abused by Muslim men on a walkabout in Luton where of course a group of Muslim men demonstrated against our troops marching through the town following a tour of duty in Afghanistan earlier this year.

The Baroness, herself a Muslim, branded her abusers as "idiots who did not represent the majority of British Muslims."

Is she correct? Or has she betrayed her own culture and upbringing by sharing a platform on Question Time recently with the BNP's Nick Griffin? She needed a Police Escort to continue the walkabout today.

Is Luton a hotbed of Muslim fundamentalism and disaffection?

http://news.bbc.co.uk...cks/herts/8387110.stm
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she should not be a baroness in the first place. its a politically correct appointment, and devalues the title
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Betrayed her own culture? By that do you mean that those who verbally abused her and demonstrated against our troops were somehow a credit to their culture? Yes, she is correct to call them idiots (in fact they're not just idiots - they're dangerous idiots) and it's a pity there aren't more like her who are willing to speak up.
Not sure I quite follow your logic. If Griffin had have been pelted with eggs by fellow Brits would that be proof that he was not a "Proper Brit"?

She holds moderate views while her attackers would appear to be an extremist element.

As with with the incident with the homecoming troops being abused, the perpetrators you can count on one hand, yet their actions are reported as though all muslims hold these views. They do not. They are representative. They are, as the Baroness rightly said, just idiots.
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I quite like the Baroness. She initially impressed me when she was on the infamous 'BNP' Question Time episode – before I realised that most of what she said was vacuous guff – it sounded great until you actually analysed the words and discovered that she didn't actually say much at all. My boss has been pulling this same trick for years. It is impressive though.

However, I think she needs to have a good hard look at her religion if she thinks that the men who decorated her with eggs are not real Muslims.

Does she not realise that, as a Muslim without a pen!s, she will always be attacked both verbally and physically by those pen!s owning Muslims who follow their faith with due deference to the scriptures?

Maybe she thinks that powerful female Muslims are acceptable in Islam?

I don't know. But what I do know is that she's got a real fight on her hands if she thinks she can engage in a rational debate with a group of Muslim men who clearly think she's got above her station (her station, in accordance with Muslim teachings, being either in the kitchen cooking, or in the bedroom doing something that sounds similar).
See also: Beefeaters.
It devalues the title Baz?

I'm sure Jamie Blandford will be writing her letters of protest - when next he's sober
I know little of the Baroness but it would seem on the face of it that she perhaps is a good example of what we are forever told, and that is "all Muslims are not the same".

Having said that, she is in a prime position to truly be a figurehead in the fight for Women's rights in the Muslim world. If not in the whole Muslim world, perhaps in this country would be a start.

She along with other prominent Muslims , could also be more vocal in the condemnation of fanatical Muslims in this country and throughout the rest of the world.
birdie /// Maybe she thinks that powerful female Muslims are acceptable in Islam? ////

Maybe she has been to Pakistan and seen the former prime minister?
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Maybe she is a muslim who accepts freedom of speech. I don't know whether or not that is against the muslim religion or not.
Oneeyedvic -

Do you mean Benazir Bhutto, the woman who was blown to smithereens by a suicidal Muslim man who obviously didn't want her to take office again?

Another great example of male Muslim tolerance.

Mohammed himself said that (and I paraphrase), 'A female ruler will never be successful'
Well, Mohammed should know shouldn't he? Seeing as he was The One True Prophet?


Islam needs to wake up to the fact that the we're now in the 21st century. Many Muslims throughout the world seem to be happy to live (at least morally and spiritually) in the 7th century.

The Muslims who pelted the Baroness with eggs are archaic anachronisms. They are dinosaurs, living in the past and doomed to extinction, but they don't even realise it.

The world has moved on but the Islamic religion wants to keep them forever in the misogynistic, barbaric, intolerant past.
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