250 hours really?

[sherminator]

Bit harsh no? 250 hours!!!!! thats a hell of a lot for something that did no damage in a monetary sense! i understand the 'sybolism' is horrendous but the only way he knew about it was when someone handed him a picture the next day so even the symbolic gesture or political statement that could have been made by such an action wasnt intended!! its not like he got drunk and punched someone in the face(which ironically he prob would have got less time for!)

He also apologised at every opportunity as well!! Media URL: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8380214.stm
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[sherminator]

thats...really sensible thanks Billy thanks for ferailing my thread with first post

[tamborine]

Am glad he is remorseful (read the article). May keep him off the drink forever......a cheap penalty to save him from himself. He should mature into an upstanding citizen after this.

[sherminator]

it just seems that he needed a pee and picked what ever was closest to to pee against! could have been a wall or anything! there was, by the looks of it no malicious intent at all and he was only just spared a prison sentence for something that did no vadalism or hurt anyone!!

[4getmenot]

and even a wall you get fines as it is againist the law. Damage or no damage.

[vulcan]

That is harsh sherinator,was watching a police programme last night and they saw a lad urinating in the street.After a telling off he had to borrow a bucket from a nearby shop and wash it all down. he was then sent on his way, a big difference between that and 250 hours. that is the problem with the law in this country,no consistency.

[sp1814]

sherminator

Hopefully his punishment will involve him helping out at a soldiers' retirement centre/hospice. That would be appropriate.

But yeah, 250 hours seems a bit much.

And as for talk of imprisonment???

[sherminator]

4getmenot exactly it was a public indeceny charge which is usually £80 fine! my guess is he pee'd against closest thing to him and it just so happened to be a mmorial no 'real' damage done!

[4getmenot]

No but it was a war memorial you kind of answer your own question. It is the symbolism of it all. And because it had been made a media issue they couldnt really have given him less

[4getmenot]

and I;m sure he did damage the memorial reefs. I doubt they are p1ss proof

[4getmenot]

woops wreaths

[LoftyLottie]

Out of interest

http://www.theanswerb...k/Question833223.html

[LoftyLottie]

I agree with you sherminator.

[scotman]

I am getting confused with all these threats of imprisonment. As I understand it, to be sent to prison you have to be convicted of a criminal offence(not civil). What could he have been charged with that was a criminal offence?
There has been another thread about someone 'mooning' from within his own home and also being threatened with prison for it.
Can anyone explain the actual law on these matters?

[bundleone]

he is guilty ofbeing drunk, and should be ashamed of himself for that reason,his mates are just as guilty, he didnt know what he was doing, but hopefully he will have learned his lesson and maybe keep of the drink and get some decent mates. is the reason students are so much debt?

[birdie1971]

Scotman – The actual charge was “Outraging Public Decency” which is a civil offence and as such carries a maximum sentence of 6 months porridge.

Definition: “It is an offence to commit an act of a lewd, obscene, and disgusting nature, which is capable of outraging public decency, in a public place where at least two members of the public could have witnessed it”

Wazzing on a war memorial certainly fulfils the above criteria.

This offence was originally created to deal with people copulating in full view of adults and children and although it technically applies in this case I think that a prison sentence in this instance would have been disproportionate.

[jake-the-peg]

You think urinating in public is lewd and obcene do you birdie?

After a dictionary for Christmas?

[baileybird]

just out of interest - you should compare that a local man where I live has received 200 hours community service for causing death by dangerous driving of a young father of 36 with 4 children.

Should he have got more or should the lad who peed on the wreaths have got less.

I know what I would have done.!!!!