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Bent Bananas and nobbly carrots- woohoo!

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R1Geezer | 11:00 Mon 06th Jul 2009 | News
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Apparently our masters at the EU have finally given up on trying to get fruit and veg to grow uniformly! Apparently bananas refused to straighten up! Have they finally realised that there are more important things? Is this a victory for common sense? What loopy policy will they abandon next?
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Well done Geezer, you are the proud winner of a Blue Gromit Badge awarded for the longest swallowing of a Euro myth.

The EU have never had a problem with bent bananas.

Here is the correct answer: the commissioners have no problem with straight bananas, it's the crooked ones they don't like so much, but they have never banned them. As Commission Regulation (EC) 2257/94 puts it, bananas must be "free from malformation or abnormal curvature". In the case of "Extra class" bananas, there is no wiggle room, but Class 1 bananas can have "slight defects of shape", and Class 2 bananas can have full-on "defects of shape".

No attempt is made to define "abnormal curvature" in the case of bananas, which must lead to lots of arguments. Contrast the case of cucumbers (Commission Regulation (EEC) No 1677/88), where Class I and "Extra class" cucumbers are allowed a bend of 10mm per 10cm of length. Class II cucumbers can bend twice as much.
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Ok they've haven't said they have to be straight but there is a regulation on the maximum curvature of bananas, is there not? Anyway what about the overall question was there ever so much resource devoted to something so irrelevant?

Oh and I think that's the first ever Blue Gromit badge, I shall treasure this future priceless bauble!
was going to post and then realised you weren't referring to 2 of the chatterbankers................
Oh I never get a badge!!

I want one too!
There wasn't really much resources devoted to this regulation.

The nobbly carrot, which was a constant feature of programmes like 'That's Life' were actually cheating the consumer. You could not peel them or use them. If you were sold one then you had no recourse than to throw it away. The EU regulations just described what was and what wasn't fit for sale to the public.

Rather than being ridiculous, it is in fact stating the bleedin obvious. If the fruit is malformed then it should go into food processing rather than sold to the general public.

Why this perfectly reasonable regulation captured the imagination and the scorn of the Euro Skeptics is an even bigger mystery.



There is an entire database here
http://ec.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/press/euromy ths/index_en.htm

Of Euromyths

Great game! make up a ridiculous EuroMyth and then claim that the EU has done a U turn and claim a victory for common sense!



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But EU reg 2257/94 does specify a maximum curvature, does it not?
Actually, leaving aside any EU directive, you ain't gonna be seeing any 'non-standard' fruit and veg in your local Sainsburys any time soon.

Supermarkets regularly reject non-standard consumables because 'the market doesn't want it'.

I remember back in the 70s, potatoes had dirt on them and carrots could be any shape (keeping Esther Rantzen in employment on That's Life every Sunday night).

It's not like that any more, and that's nothing to do with the EU. When was the last time you were able to buy a suspiciously phallic-shaped cougette?

Not recently, I;d wager.
If the price was right the public would buy them. I grow some excellently curved cuecumbers that the EU would hate. They tast great and there is no wastage.

Much of this comes from the fact the EU do (and did) make a directive that is woooly and stupid. Teh UK then takes it to the extreme.

If you want non straight goods try your local market. You will probably fniord they tast better and dont last a rediculous length of time due to radiation or whatever they do to them.
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If malformed fruit is not to be sold to the general public, then a measure of what is acceptable and what is not needs to be stated.

You need a limit to know when it is broken.

If you travel at 69mph on motorway you are fine, if you travel at 71mph you are illegal. It's not rocket science.
as sp1814 points out, the EU regulations are nothing more than Tescos have been doing for years. You've probably started lots of threads denouncing supermarkets for their loopy policies and demanding that they sell common-sense bananas, but I've missed them.
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Fair enough Gromit, all I'm saying is it is not mythology that the EU regulated the curvature of bananas!
Onlay at request of National Governments and industry

http://ec.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/press/euromy ths/myth05_en.htm

Why the industry wanted them curved I don't know I guess you better ask Tesco.

However I rather guess that the big supermarkets wanted to regulate the products to what they wanted to sell.

I don't think anyone in Brussels sat down and said "You know what would be a laugh......"
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But why are regs necessary? If tescos wanted straighter bananas they have the clout to say so, as do the public.
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It's all the fault of Yerp innit ?

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