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Geert Wilders speech....Islamic Europe?

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R1Geezer | 10:40 Mon 23rd Feb 2009 | News
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Is Europe on course for total Islamisation? Could the US stand up to an Islamic Europe with nuclear weapons?
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The Dutch have never really fought for freedom as WW2 tells you.
Sharia is'nt part of the legal structure in Britain, I doubt it ever will be and I would oppose it.
The riots in Paris were race riots rather than religion riots.
It's a lot heat and very little light, in effect he is setting Muslims up as a latter day juden frage.
The answer to "the Islamisation of Europe" is rather too untenable for some to stomach, are you willing to stand up for our "Judeo Christian history"?
If so, how?
By being a better a Christian?
I agree with the disaffection of the electorate caused by a liberal elite, although we'd have probably called them Jews 70 years ago (some things never really change), but again, are you willing to become politically active to defend your democracy?
Homer (Simpson) once said "aw, can't somebody else do it?"
I would never vote for a party that was against immigration or diversity, history's going full circle I fear because to paraphrase "one thing people (originaly it said women) will always vote for is law order and a uniform" now who was it who said that?
He has some very valid points, but of course the liberal elite will wring their hands and ban him so once again Islam wins.

There will be another large war and it will be with Muslims. I dont think they will win but it will be a blood bath.

Religion is bad - all religion. It is used to control the masses and lets face it Islam is no peaceful religion.

Oddly it will be the liberal types that have the most to loose. Me, apart from the booze thing and sticking my arse to the west couple of times a day I reckon its got alot going for it. But if I was a gay or a woman with pinko views it would certainly be different,.
Let's just get this absolutely clear.

There are 731 Million people in Europe

10.8 million are muslim.

That's 1.5%

A Muslim Europe exists only in paranoid fantasies


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how big doe the percenatage need to be then jake for you to be concerned?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ar ticle3653800.ece


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Well lets put it this way

How do you suppose that a muslim minority of less than 2% is going to seize control of the continent of Europe - set up an Islamic state and take control of nuclear weapons?

2% is not going to do it through democratic means

and 2% is not going to form an army to do it brandishing sabres

I suppose you're going to tell me that our collective governments are goint to say "OK come in and run everything - we'll just abandon 400 years of democratic government"?

Seriously?

Do you actually think that?
Very good filth

What part of in Europe are you having difficulty with?
DrFilth

Christianity is the worlds largest religion.

Roman Catholicism is just one of many christian religions. When the Christian religions are counted as one they are greater than the combined Islamic religions.
jake no problem just thought you may like to see it

did ya get out the wrong side of the bed ?

gromit ( same as above )


sorry for f00king farting , bad monday or what


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DrFilth et al,

World Religions ranking


http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherent s.html
So are we honestly saying Islam is no threat?

Ok Geert is OTT, he is trying to make a point and it should be read in that way, but it is surprising how threats can grow.

Of course I can imaging Jake there with his little piece of signed paper

The bottom line is Europe is pampering to Islam, Eruopeans are expected to accomadate them and understand but of course this is not returned by your average muslim. Whilst I agree many mulsims deplore war they do not exatly rush in their droves to shop those that do in the name of Islam do they.

You ignore this threat at your peril. It is a threat albeit small at present.
Islam is the new boogeyman. Every generation has one.
>Sharia is'nt part of the legal structure in Britain, I doubt it >ever will be and I would oppose it.

Well we are slowly moving that way.

The article below says:
"Five sharia courts already operate mediation systems here and the Government allows Islamic tribunals to settle the affairs of divorcing couples and send their judgements to civil courts for approval"

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2 009/02/17/williams-renews-sharia-law-claims-91 466-22943004/

gromit if your chart is correct you can argue with jake .

i have other things to worry about. bike detection system on some roads by easter. if they stored certan ethic groups info on computer like they are going to do with bikers there would be uproar. but bikers seem to be the group to target at the moment.


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Can somebody please give me some sort of realistic scenario which would end up with a Muslim Europe?


How would this exactly work?

Are you expecting immigration of 300 million muslims into Europe?

Are you expecting a coup of those that are here

Please explain exactly what the nightmare scenario is that has you quaking in your boots

Go on paint me a picture
Well - according to Geert there are already 54 million Muslims in Europe. If he's right how does that grab you Jake ?
I know it worries me.
The Nazis started as less than one per cent in Germany.
Which country do they live in? Turkey?

That would be 1 in 3 of the EU population so that's clearly nonsense
sorry 1 in 10 but it's still double the UN figure.

The Nazis played on hatred and nationalism to demonise sections of society for a minority to seize power.

A similar thing is happening right now but muslims are not playing the part of the Nazis
Actually, there's wide consensus among historians that the Nazis got into power riding a wave of strong public support. By 1933 they weren't a minority party by any stretch.

But that's irrelevant. Calling a parallel between Europe now and Germany then is still ludicrously crude and has very little serious credibility.

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