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stokemaveric | 11:47 Sun 06th Jul 2008 | News
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so the 16 year old,shakilus townsend was a knife gang member,died crying out for his mother.....tough.....live by the sword die by the sword i say....it would have just been a matter of time before HE had killed someone.good riddance to bad rubbish..................
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can't agree more mate!
Don't worry the way it's going all these scum bags will kill each other eventually,and then we might get a bit of peace and quiet on the streets!
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cant come soon enough bernie...........
Actually, what wil happen is that more and more non-gang members will be killed.

Haven't you been reading the papers over the past few weeks????

If you agree with standing back and 'letting them get on with it', I only hope that one day it's not one of your own framily you're shedding tears over.

So if someone was to go out on a Friday night and was intoxicated and they died, do they deserve it?

What about someone who got into a fist fight - do they deserve to die?
Sorry....I might have jumped to an invalid conclusion...I assumed from the posts that this was a gang member, but I've just been to the Guardian and Telegraph websites, and can't find anything suggesting that.

Initial reports suggests that he was lured into the attack after making a pass at one of his attackers girlfriends (speculation at this point).

Were you similarly happy when Ben Kinsella (brother of Eastenders actress) was murdered?

When you see stories of murdered children on the news, are you happy? Does it make you smile?

What in God's name is wrong with you?

Seriously...you're a horrible, horrible, horrible excuse for a human being.
SP- i can sort of see where stoke is coming from.

According to one of the newspapers this morning, cant remember which- sorry, it shows pictures taken from a Bebo account set up in his memory by his friends, these pictures feature Shakilus weilding a knife in one, and a gun in another.
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oneeyevic and sp1814,there are pictures of this thug brandishing knives and a handgun,there is nothing wrong with me except that i have no sympathy with thugs who die as they have lived....through violence.why would i be happy when young ben kinsella was murdered....he was an innocent victim....was he a member of a knife,gun toting gang?no he wasnt and these are the kids who we should be protecting from the scum like shakilus townsend...the only regret i have got about this piece of sh*t is that he didnt scream enough when he was stabbed as i have said good riddance to bad rubbish.....i personally hope he burns in hell,he and his cronies are exactly the sort scum that we do not want on the streets of the uk......it is his sort that killed young ben kinsella.....if that sort of thinking makes me a horrible,horrible,horrible excuse for a human being then i tell you what......im proud to be called just that sp1814
As long as you revel in the deaths of gang members, you will have to watch more and more innocent kids dying.

There will be many many many more Bens and many many more Shakiluses.

I hope you feel as happy as you do today when you read the next story about a dead kid.

The natural reaction to the story of a child dying is "What a shameful waste of life...was a loss of opportunity".

It should not be "Hey, let's crack open the champers...there's one less gang member on the street".

Do you actually think that one single death is going to make any difference? You still have a lost nihilistic generation who need education, a sense of social responsibility and more than anything else - a sense of purpose.

It's not us and them

They do not exist within some remote bubble. They're here and celebrating their murder is a horrible.

A dead child is a dead child and somewhere there's a mum who's life has been torn apart,
Britain is going to have to get used to more and more and more news like this. It is here to stay. The tribes of Africa are turning Britain's inner-city streets into a jungle. There is no solution - how can you lock up so many thousands of yoofs for 5 years each?

They are dejected and resentful, unemployed because they are unemployable, uneducated because they are ineducable.

At least they keep it largely in-house.


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and what about the mother of say,another ben kinsella?who was never a member of any gang,who was an innocent member of the public targetted,by someone who was carrying a knffe....i do not revel in any childs death and lets remember that is exactly what they are...children.you adopt the ''hug a hoody'' attitude sp1418 well i have news for you it doesnt work....they will only stab you in the back...in more ways than 1..these gangs that roam the streets have created an ''us and them'' situation...would you walk down a suburban street late at night feeling safe?no you would not so therefore IT IS an ''us and them'' scenario.it is a kill or be killed attitude and im afraid its people with attitudes like yours who treat these killers with kid gloves that will make the streets no go areas for decent,law abiding citizens.
stoke - you seemd to have missed my questions.

Is anyone who goes out on a Friday / Saturday night who is intoxicated and gets in a fight 'fair game' and 'deserved of it' if they should get killed?
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oneyedvic i cant get to the point of your question,what has that got to do with thugs with knives murdering innocent people?
Every child/youth death is one to many and is a tragedy, but this is not an epidemic sweeping the country, just an epidemic of news coverage and adult anxiety.

The WHO report
- a worldwide average of 9.2 killings per 100,000 people aged 10 to 29
Russia 18 killings per 100,000, the USA 11. France had just 0.6, Germany 0.8 and the UK only 0.9.

With the coverage these dreadful killings get, young people will start to believe everyone else is carrying knives and stabbing, so they in turn will think they need to.
whiffey

Grown ups are talking now.

Please either post something non-dumb, or go back to your crayoning.
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yes ruby you are sadly right,it is a weapon carrying culture,caused mainly by ethnic groups,not ALL the time but it is a fair percentage........im just waiting for the ''YOU ARE RACIST'' comments to materalise well before they do come im not.....im just realistic.....
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You see!

You've just proved my point...if you sit back and say, "Let them kill each other" without contemplating any other solution, you will see more and more Bens on the news.

Gangs have to be tackled head on. If you do nothing except cheer when a gang member is killed, nothing will change and more and more innocent kids will be murdered.

And when I say innocent, I also mean those kids who are too young to be part of a gang, but who join one in years to come because people like you have the 'let them go to hell' attitude.
sp1814, you are a bit of a joke. These are overwhelmingly black kids killing other black kids. It is the WAY THEY ARE. It has nothing to do with policing or imprisonment any more. I say again, it is the jungle on the streets. Maybe we should import experts from all those countries which have successfully mastered the phenomenon, e.g. Jamaica, Zimbabwe. Let them get on with it, because there is no police force on earth to stop it.

stokemaveric

Let it be noted that you were the first one to mention racism.

Fifteen posts in, and not one mention, so let's leave race out of the equation.
"The natural reaction to the story of a child dying is "What a shameful waste of life...was a loss of opportunity".

It should not be "Hey, let's crack open the champers...there's one less gang member on the street". "

Sorry, but 5hits like this deserve what they get.

Nothing wrong with honest lawe abiding citizens being happy that there is now one less scumbag around in this world.
whiffey

Don't refer to black people as being ineducable.

I'll be honest here...I don't know you - I only know your opinions through AB...however, I dislike you and find you offensive and almost heroically stupid.

So I'll make a promise - I won't respond to any of your puerile simple-minded race-baiting if you promise never to directly speak to me.

That deal includes not replying to this post.

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