Following on from the incensed thread.

[legend758duo]

So we need to jail loony muslim plotters with pictures of guns for 20 years ?Now its not that long ago we had our own home grown terrorists.Remember the brighton bombing?The hyde park band stand?The bomb in manchester city center?The bomb in warrington ?Where are the terrorists and their friends?Walking the streets of britain free most of them.Some of them commited bombings murders etc and never served 20 years .Are we getting things out of perspective or is it because they werent muslims or even considered foreigners?How many soldiers and civilians killed by them?Compare it to muslim terrorists in the uk.Well?Any thoughts or views?

[jake-the-peg]

And some members of the Army and RUC also committed apalling acts in NI - justifying it with "It's a war aint it?"

Well at the end of a war you have a peace and that means people have to let go of old emnities.

The important thing is there's now peace in Northern Ireland.

[paulos66]

Do you think it's worth reminding those poor people terrified of muslims that they've lived under a terrorist threat all their lives or just let the sad saps worry themselves to death

[4GS]

What 'appalling acts' were they then Jake?
I completed 7 tours over there and never once commited a so called 'appalling act'

[legend758duo]

jake far from peace the terrorists are now organised criminals.war goes on but not on mainland britain.so fk them eh?thats the british attitude now.

[paulos66]

Well spotted 4gs - you didn't see any therefore they mustn't have happened - love your logic

[New Judge]

They were not home grown they were Irish.

As for where they are now, many of them (or, at least their leaders) are members of the Northern Ireland Assembly which was restored last year after four and a half years of argument about its future.

The lesson: Create enough carnage and mayhem, kill enough people and threaten to kill a lot more, and we'll accede to your demands and give you a post in government.

[legend758duo]

I think its common knowledge there were beatings etc if not carried out by the army then condoned.An i think john stalker said there was a shoot to kill policy.Thats detracting from the fact things arent over yet there.And hasnt it been reported ira bombmakers have traded bombmaking training with terrorist in middle east in the past for weapons and explosives ?

[New Judge]

Oh and jake, if you believe there is peace in Northern Ireland you cannot have been there recently. It may be comparatively peaceful compared to some years ago, but I've been there in the past couple of years and I know people who live there. And peaceful it ain't.

[4GS]

Oh and the terrorist had a 'shoot to slightly upset' policy did they? ffs

[legend758duo]

New judge if theyre not british , which they are check their passports , then are we to trace back your family tree ?verging on the nazis now the ss didnt go back 3oo years to see if there was a jew in your family.How long has it been british ?

[Gromit]

You can't just lock away idiots for posing with guns.

idiot posing with gun

[legend758duo]

Getting slightly off track.Why is it ok for these terrorists to be walking free money in their pockets whilst you advocate a 20 year jail sentence for someone who might just have been a walter mitty wanna be terrorist?

Sp is it because hes a foreigner muslim or what ?

[jake-the-peg]

Really 4GS?

I take it January '72 was before you time was it? - well lets put Bloody Sunday to one side.

Here's a list of the people killed just by baton rounds in Northern Ireland all but one civillians.

http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/issues/violence/rubberp lasticbullet.htm

Not to mention tipping off reublican paramilitaries

Now I'm not saying there wasn't just as much or worse violence on the other side.

Just don't come the White Knight

[legend758duo]

the thread was more aimed at opeoples acceptance of white northern irish terrorists as opposed to the wee brown guy muslim guy whatever rascist way you wanna describe him.theyre pure evil it seems.yet how many have they killed?whos worse?

[New Judge]

Half the population of the world are "British", legend, but that does not mean they are "home grown".

[4GS]

Ah, theres the rub, he pleaded guilty automatic half's the sentence

[legend758duo]

Half the population of the world are british?Really?

[Booldawg]

...and we're all evil capitalists who were personally responsible for the potato famine, slavery and the war in Iraq. We welcome acts of terrorism on ourselves to help our conscience.