Are Jews Safe In The Uk/West These Days?

[youngmafbog]

There has been a gowing number of very serious threats agaisnt Jews lately, are they safe now or will some be forced to move?

It's quite worrying really.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12867587/shocking-moment-man-threatens-kill-jews-north-london.html

[Togo]

Non of us are safe    ...   never mind the Jewish communities. 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/german-police-seize-bomb-making-material-in-raids-on-hamas-suspects/ar-AA1lyb5E?ocid=hpmsn&;cvid=c4

[douglas9401]

Has it been lost on the world that a group who abhor gays and pork chose to go by Hamas?

Maybe a coded message that they'd like to change?

[Ellipsis]

> You are correct, in this case I doubt they are, more like ULT-RIGHT thugs. 

Isn't it strange, when the OP is about ULT-RIGHT thugs, when some say nothing whatsoever about ULT-RIGHT thugs, and only about Hamas terrorists? It's almost like they don't care about the victims, the north London Jewish community - all they care about is their own opportunity to talk about Muslims again, even though they're not the question ...

[Togo]

I posted this on another thread. It will fit here too.

" I have an essay for you. Not mine and not from a source that you would usually seek. It is however an essay that is of interest to all who like to read essays. It is perhaps a little thought provoking, though the thoughtless need none. It compares Hamas with the nazis and reflects that Hitler did his best to hide his evil doings though hamas brazenly films and broadcasts their own atrocities. It is not a 15 minute read for the over emotional. "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12848257/Why-Hamas-worse-Nazis-thought-provoking-essay-historian-ANDREW-ROBERTS.html

[Deskdiary]

sandyRoe is so so wrong. Generally (pedants, I said generally, not exclusively), the Jew-haters are on the left. This is a fact. To suggest otherwise (in the context of the Hamas terrorism) is quite simply a lie.

[Ellipsis]

> Look at the link in the OP and figure out for yourself who the culprits are ...

>> You are correct, in this case I doubt they are [Muslims], more like ULT-RIGHT thugs

That's the OP ...

[sandyRoe]

It's right-wingers who are the "Jew haters'.

Any left winger with an ounce of sense could see the difference between Zionists/Israelis and Jewish people.

[naomi24]

From Togo's link:  //whereas the Nazis went to great lengths to hide their crimes from the world, because they knew they were crimes, Hamas has done the exact opposite, because they do not consider them to be so.//

 

And that culture, in a nutshell, applies to not only to Hamas but to every other Islamic group with similar ambition - including ISIS.   That's what the supporters of Palestine are, albeit unwittingly, championing. 

[naomi24]

To answer the question, no, Jews in the UK/West are not safe - and neither is anyone else.

[jourdain2]

That should have B.A., Naomi.

[sandyRoe]

In the 1930s it was the Blackshirts who showed the right -wing attitude towards Jewish people, infamously culminating in the battle of Chapel Street.  Over time the National Front and later the BNP carried on that tradition.

 

[naomi24]

I take it you mean the Battle of Cable Street, sandyRoe, - but what does that have to do with it.

[naomi24]

Thanks, jourdain.  It's difficult when Palestine's supporters automatically assume that Hamas & co possess a mindset that the west can relate to.  It can't.

[Untitled]

can't help but feel there is something of an agenda behind the portrayal of all muslims as inherently dangerous to everyone else... 

[sandyRoe]

The people who were attacking Jewish communities then were the Blackshirts.  They were right-wing.   That's what my post has to do with it.

[naomi24]

Unless you mean Hamas gives a fig about left or right wing - because it doesn't - I'm still not understanding you, sandyRoe.  That's your western mindset - and it's something that isn't shared by Hamas.

[Untitled]

From the andrew roberts article:

 

"The officer corps of civilised countries denounce it, and in the World War II even the barbaric Nazis had strict rules against their Aryan master-race having sex with people they considered inferior or 'Untermenschen'."

this is completely untrue. many of the nazis victims were raped to death and rape was extremely common in the concentration camps 

i am not sure who it is that decided the current war between hamas and israel was the ideal time to suggest the nazis weren't so bad but professional historians coming out with things that are so barefacedly untrue is something to be worried about!