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4Th Covid Jab?
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several 1st world countries (including Israel and UK) either planning or considering a 4th jab roll out...
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.....apparently because the 3rd jab's effectiveness wears off after a few weeks.
should this be the first world's priority? or would it be better for them to concentrate on jabbing the 3rd world - from where potentially scary mutant variants are more likely to arise?
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.....apparently because the 3rd jab's effectiveness wears off after a few weeks.
should this be the first world's priority? or would it be better for them to concentrate on jabbing the 3rd world - from where potentially scary mutant variants are more likely to arise?
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Yes bednobs yor right. Seeing the figures for just covid patients in ICU to compare vax/unvaxxed proportions would be more relevant to assessing whether covid vaxccines are effective or not. The chart is interesting but not really a surprise if more patients are being treated for other reasons now... and as we knew vaccine's were starting to wear off which is hwy booster's were pushed
I can see your figures, adjust them mentally to exclude non covid paients, and take into account all the other reports saying unvaxxed account for 60-80% or 'not fully jabbed' account for 80-90%.
However you look at it unvaxxed are at least 4 times more likely than double jabbed to end up in ICU with covid.
Your figures show that.
Ive seen several reports showing how it maybe nearer 10 time's as likely for unvaxxed than vaxxed for just covid patients.
However you look at it unvaxxed are at least 4 times more likely than double jabbed to end up in ICU with covid.
Your figures show that.
Ive seen several reports showing how it maybe nearer 10 time's as likely for unvaxxed than vaxxed for just covid patients.
anneasquith
‘Another covid thread’…………. There is NO obligation to read them. They are of interest to many .
Hear hear
For those complaining feel free to post topics of your own that are not covid related
Or are you so bored that you have to post on a thread that you supposedly have no interest in ?
Smh
‘Another covid thread’…………. There is NO obligation to read them. They are of interest to many .
Hear hear
For those complaining feel free to post topics of your own that are not covid related
Or are you so bored that you have to post on a thread that you supposedly have no interest in ?
Smh
fender62
people traveling round the globe 24/7 transmiting and receiving viruses etc...i see no end to it, so what is it jabbed 4 times a year forever..
So what ?
If it was to prevent cancer would you have it ?
I gave blood yesterday
I do so 3 or 4 times a year
It took 20 minutes
Booster jabs are currently being done in a tenth of the time
Can you spare 2 minutes 4 times a year ?
With probable new variants every few months it may well become the norm
Better to get used to the idea now
people traveling round the globe 24/7 transmiting and receiving viruses etc...i see no end to it, so what is it jabbed 4 times a year forever..
So what ?
If it was to prevent cancer would you have it ?
I gave blood yesterday
I do so 3 or 4 times a year
It took 20 minutes
Booster jabs are currently being done in a tenth of the time
Can you spare 2 minutes 4 times a year ?
With probable new variants every few months it may well become the norm
Better to get used to the idea now
//..people traveling round the globe 24/7 transmiting and receiving viruses etc...i see no end to it, so what is it jabbed 4 times a year forever...//
It was always thus.
It is likely that this virus will continue to evolve into a mild nuisance for the vast majority and a nasty, possibly fatal disease for a very small minority (rather like it is now). Vaccinations will be required until that mixture means that health facilities are not under threat of being overrun. Eventually, as with 'flu, only the most vulnerable will need it. In the UK's case, since the NHS is in a perpetual state of crisis (especially so in the winter) this level may be more difficult to achieve. Since no political party seems to have any intention of doing anything about the NHS except throw ever increasing sums of money at it only to see it frittered away, we may be stuck with vaccinations for a little longer than most. Countries which look on their health provision with a little more pragmatism instead of treating it as a religion may fare better.
//Booster jabs are currently being done in a tenth of the time//
Yes they are - once you get to a place where you can roll your sleeve up. If the entire population is to receive jabs four times a year, the process of arranging appointments needs to be a little more slick. Not everybody can afford to queue for two or three hours or to undertake an eighty mile round trip to a clinic. This will mean involving the private sector almost exclusively because as soon as the NHS gets its hands on such a major task it falls apart.
It was always thus.
It is likely that this virus will continue to evolve into a mild nuisance for the vast majority and a nasty, possibly fatal disease for a very small minority (rather like it is now). Vaccinations will be required until that mixture means that health facilities are not under threat of being overrun. Eventually, as with 'flu, only the most vulnerable will need it. In the UK's case, since the NHS is in a perpetual state of crisis (especially so in the winter) this level may be more difficult to achieve. Since no political party seems to have any intention of doing anything about the NHS except throw ever increasing sums of money at it only to see it frittered away, we may be stuck with vaccinations for a little longer than most. Countries which look on their health provision with a little more pragmatism instead of treating it as a religion may fare better.
//Booster jabs are currently being done in a tenth of the time//
Yes they are - once you get to a place where you can roll your sleeve up. If the entire population is to receive jabs four times a year, the process of arranging appointments needs to be a little more slick. Not everybody can afford to queue for two or three hours or to undertake an eighty mile round trip to a clinic. This will mean involving the private sector almost exclusively because as soon as the NHS gets its hands on such a major task it falls apart.
I agree with most of your post NJ, vaccinations will be the norm for at leats a few years and may eventually just be included in the flu jab.
But I was surprised by
//Not everybody can afford to queue for two or three hours or to undertake an eighty mile round trip to a clinic.//
Whilst most cant afford to do that...I do'nt know anyone whose had to queue for anythink like that- 15 mins max- or travel 80 mile round trip. First for me and wife were 8 miles but later ones we was able to walk to
But I was surprised by
//Not everybody can afford to queue for two or three hours or to undertake an eighty mile round trip to a clinic.//
Whilst most cant afford to do that...I do'nt know anyone whose had to queue for anythink like that- 15 mins max- or travel 80 mile round trip. First for me and wife were 8 miles but later ones we was able to walk to
//People won't need to travel excessive distances if everyone stops getting tested. Then the centres can be used for vaccinations.//
Rubbish on several counts.
Testing is essential.
Most PCRs are done by post
Vaccinators are nurses supervised by doctors who ask questions and make sure its done in the right part of your arm. The Test centres are often manned by someone who could just fill in a form and hand you the test kit then drop it in a bag but wouldnt be allowed to vaccinate you
Rubbish on several counts.
Testing is essential.
Most PCRs are done by post
Vaccinators are nurses supervised by doctors who ask questions and make sure its done in the right part of your arm. The Test centres are often manned by someone who could just fill in a form and hand you the test kit then drop it in a bag but wouldnt be allowed to vaccinate you
//If people have been triple jabbed, why would they need to keep testing? //
You may not have kept up. They can still get it, maybe from some unmasked person in a shop or bus, and so infect others who may be more vunerable than them. They can still get very ill altho its much less likely theyll be seriously ill themself if triple jabbed
You may not have kept up. They can still get it, maybe from some unmasked person in a shop or bus, and so infect others who may be more vunerable than them. They can still get very ill altho its much less likely theyll be seriously ill themself if triple jabbed
I honestly think that lots of people are loving this Covid situation. They love being saintly and precious instead of being practical and realistic, eg, what is the REAL cause of the spread of Covid? Has the Govt or "The science" investigated this aspect? Probably not, because they don't want to offend certain people. Everyone knows where the infections are the highest, which coincides with the anti-vaxxers, but it dare not be mentioned. It's not even the elephant in the room; more like the blue whale in the room.
Apart from that, everything's ok thanks! :o)
Apart from that, everything's ok thanks! :o)
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