Why Not Just Cancel Females Altogether? (Part Ii - The Truth)

[sp1814]

Earlier this week someone reacted to the news that the term 'Head Girl' was not going to be used any more at St Paul's Girls school.

If anyone felt that the school was wrong, the truth is now out.

https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/1407385210661003272?s=21

1. Head of School was the original title. They're reverting back to it.
2. The 17 and 18 year olds wanted a title that was more age-appropriate. They were polled on this.

Should we be concerned that newspapers are now frequently writing stories to fit a narrative...to rile up their readers?

[pixie374]

They have been doing it forever, yes. Their aim is to sell stories, not to tell the unbiased truth. I doubt there is one single source that is reliable, they are all written by humans.
I think the difference is, when people used to buy papers, they tended towards those that aligned with their views. Online algorithms offer you what you are most likely to read (often because it's the opposite)...
I saw the previous thread (naomi's) and the "truth" as far as we know, was there as well.

[sp1814]

Thanks you naomi24 - very interesting points.

[sp1814]

pixie374

It seems to have gotten alot more extreme now. The disparity between headlines and the truth seems to have increased. And this isn't just with the right wing press/websites.

[naomi24]

Had you read your Tweeter more carefully - and the original link - you'd have seen that there was no need at all for this thread - unless you just wanted to bash the newspapers - in which case bash them - but leave me out of it.

[pixie374]

I don't think it has, sp. Every news item ever, has to be taken with a bucket of salt and a "what is the motivation for this story?".
You are clearly stating in the OP, that Twitter, and the school must be giving the "truth". But we don't actually know that either.

[pixie374]

Right-wing, left-wing, "neutral", they all are biased in their different ways.

[sp1814]

naomi24

Thanks for your input. I looked at the title of your earlier post and thought it might be be a little off, and now I know it is.

I don't *think* this is evidence of cancel culture
but I’m sure that many would agree with you. I suppose it’s just one of those things where different people interpret the same story different ways.

I think we can agree to disagree on this.

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I have no desire to silence you naomi. Do stop playing the victim.

[youngmafbog]

//It's normally the case with right-wing fixations//

Hahahahahaha

Well that wrecked what could have been a good thread didnt it. All papers do it - even your favourite Guardian.

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Is the guardian my favourite?

[naomi24]

SP, //I don't *think* this is evidence of cancel culture//

The school have acknowledged that the ‘binary connotations’ were a factor in the decision.

[sp1814]

Weirdly - ymb you’re right. I hate when the Guardian does that. It’s really obvious when they write a story and slant it to appeal to its readers.

It’s like, “I already subscribe, you’ve got my money, now stop treating me like an Express ‘reader’”

[sp1814]

naomi24

Thanks for that.

This is definitely something to take into consideration when thinking about this story.

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"A factor" does not mean very much...

[pixie374]

Even if it wasn't the best example, I think you can see what naomi's point was. And I'm not someone who looks to be outraged by "News".

[New Judge]

//The fact that the pupils wanted it, or at least a majority did, should -- but won't -- put paid to the outrage.//

What sort of school allows its pupils to dictate policy?

I'm not outraged. As I said in an earlier thread on this topic, I'm simply puzzled as to why an all-girls' school would not have a Head Girl. But as I also said, when the establishment matures a little and stops responding to short term contemporary nonsense it may see sense.

[Prudie]

Well I'm just relieved to know that all the stories about the removal of words like girl, mother as a descriptor or any refence to the straight female sex not being allowed to stay like that are just a figment of the right wing press' imagination and are totally unfounded.

[pixie374]

They did try, prudie... but after many years, it's finally becoming more public. So, we are on the way back.

[Atheist]

Prudie, maybe many of the 'stories' in the press are simply aimed at stirring up indignation and outrage in order to sell their 'news'.
It seems that ship-stirring goes on all over the place simply to attract attention to one's own deeply-held convictions/deeply-lined pockets.
Virtue-signalling on both sides, perhaps?

[pixie374]

I don't think so, atheist. Many of these stories are years old, but are only just arriving on AB. This is the opposite, it's something where genuine issues have been silenced and slid under the carpet, often with accusations of "transphobic". AB is well behind real-life, usually and we are only just seeing some genuine results publicised now.