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Bobbisox1 | 10:09 Mon 21st Dec 2020 | News
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Lorries backed up at Dover as the rest of Europe close their borders to us
A mutant infection adding to a deadly pandemic
And time running out for Brexit talks

Good luck Boris , no other PM in peace time has dealt with anything so bad
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Boris is carrying the can for every mistake made by previous Governments and Prime Ministers for the last 50 years. They all led us into reliance on people who think nothing, of us and a position whereby we cannot determine our own destiny without punishment and peevish retribution from unelected egoists. The pandemic has brought it all into sharp focus....
19:57 Mon 21st Dec 2020
don;t know much about him to be honest grumpy, but its obvious that its not contained no matter how many lockdowns, tier systems, bubbles and people comply. Many on Ab have said what they do, fine, but that doesn't mean everyone will.
Leo Amery (whose son was hanged for treason in 1946) was merely quoting Cromwell's remarks to the Rump parliament in 1653.
The old saying, 'Be careful what you wish for.', might be in the back of the PM's mind just now.
people still have to go to work, kids to school, and those businesses like supermarkets to feed the nation. Perhaps he hasn't got anything right, perhaps he has said things like have a five day break, but if we had a two or five day break some are going to contract this wretched virus
sandy it well be,
We thought we were getting Churchill#2 and we got Mr Bean.
Are any of the other MPs any better... or more forceful?
churchill got dumped when the country got tired of him, remember that
Bobbi i don;t know who would be a better PM, but we are stuck with him for good or ill, until the government changes to Labour?
Jacob Rees-Mogg, there's a real tory
"We thought we were getting Churchill#2 and we got Mr Bean"

Not often I agree with Khandro but that is pretty much it :-)

Tho why on earth we might think Johnson would be like Churchill is anyone's guess. Churchill stuck to his guns (literally) at the price of his popularity and reputation. Johnson is the exact opposite.
Churchill's patchy political career was rescued by the war, which was exactly his calling. Johson is a PM for good times, not bad.
is he, the party didn't pick him though, besides which Boris is a Tory unless he suddenly joined another party
"Jacob Rees-Mogg, there's a real tory "

And then he goes and spoils it. Although stricrly probably true :-)]
Rees-Mogg has a posh accent which impresses some. Maybe spouting b****ks is more convincing then.
To most he's an embarrassment.
and as i said as soon as we were out of the jaws of war, the country dumped him and chose a so called peace time leader,
"and as i said as soon as we were out of the jaws of war, the country dumped him and chose a so called peace time leader, "

Very much so: people could tell the difference between what was needed before and what was needed then. A 1945 Boris Johnson batting for the Tories with mots of grand schemes might have done the trick, at least during the campaign :-)
For me someone like Professor Jonny Van Tam. Cant think of any current politicians whod do a good job although a did like Alan Johnson, David Blunkett and Alistair Darling in there day not so long ago if there still around
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The old saying, 'Be careful what you wish for.', might be in the back of the PM's mind just now. "

Some might call it karma for the chameleon :-)
What you really need to ask is: which other politician - who actually might plausubly replace Johnson, ie another member of the ruling party - would be better.
//A scientist was saying just after he brought Tier 4 in that he had acted very quickly and that this mutation had only recently come to light.//

Then “A Scientist” is telling porkies. The new strain was known about in September and possibly even earlier than that. New infections have been rising steadily since early December. The seven day average had risen by over 40% between 1st December and last Wednesday. There has been plenty of evidence to show that the situation was worsening throughout the last three weeks.

//Surely anyone worth his salt would never,given the number of cases of the virus,ever allowed a five day amnesty over Christmas and even up to as late as Wednesday saying it was still to happen.//

I’m absolutely with you on that score, grumpy. Everybody I have spoken to (and a lot more besides) has said that the idea was absolute lunacy from the start. I am not a fan of the government’s overall strategy with the pandemic, but they have a strategy of trying to keep everybody away from everybody else as far as possible. They’ve been doing that for nine months to a greater or lesser degree. To hide behind the “new variant” is disingenuous to say the least. It’s been known about for ages and I cannot believe that so much new information came to light between last Wednesday (when the five day break was still on) and Saturday (when all the plans that people had made were comprehensively trashed).
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Back from getting a haircut , probably for the unforeseeable too,
Margie ,I haven't gone into meltdown about it either but like you, I find this is a bit worrying , I was quite euphoric hearing that we got the vaccine but that euphoria is a bit short lived , it seems one step forward and 10 back

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