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no doubt it will be filled with a load of TROB hand wringers. Does the Mayor's office have this power? Will they also be taking down statues to Terrorists? EG: https:/
no doubt it will be filled with a load of TROB hand wringers. Does the Mayor's office have this power? Will they also be taking down statues to Terrorists? EG: https:/
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jim360 - // There is a clear gulf between statues celebrating people who, perhaps, should not be so celebrated, and between the buildings their ill-gotten gains have provided. // Actually, there isn't, quite the opposite in fact. If you start analysing philanthropy based on the income source, where on earth do you stop? Are you going to say that millowners...
17:35 Tue 09th Jun 2020
As to the statues, what matters -- and what was lacking in Bristol -- is societal consent. If a review leads to proposals to remove such-and-such a statue then, hopefully, the citizens too will be consulted. In either case, a more honest appraisal of our past can hardly be welcome. We're constantly assured that removing statues is an erasure of history, which rings a lot more hollow if those raising this protest are determined to ignore a significant chunk of it.
//Such a blatantly racist law and social system deserved to be challenged strongly. //
how strongly, Jim? is anti racism so important that murder becomes acceptable?
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how strongly, Jim? is anti racism so important that murder becomes acceptable?
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"All statues in London will be examined with a view to removing those with links to slavery and plantation owners, Sadiq Khan has said."
Unsure I see much public consultation there. In fact I'm of the opinion councils avoid consultation, or ignore it's outcome if they don't like it, as an affront to their control.
By removing statues, is that not a prime example of trying to ignore history ? Removsl of evidence. Denial at it's crystal clearest.
Unsure I see much public consultation there. In fact I'm of the opinion councils avoid consultation, or ignore it's outcome if they don't like it, as an affront to their control.
By removing statues, is that not a prime example of trying to ignore history ? Removsl of evidence. Denial at it's crystal clearest.
I'd argue that calling apartheid "racism" is an understatement and then some. Every aspect of a non-white South African's life was proscribed, every human freedom curtailed. There could be no democratic solution if the affected populace was denied the right to vote. That provides an important context, does it not?
The should pull this statue, and others like it, down as well.
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The Knights Templar killed loads of Muslims.
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The Knights Templar killed loads of Muslims.
He was Purser on a ship with his second cousin Sir John Hawkins.
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// Now look at the state of it. Most South Africans are a lot worse off than ever before. //
In the sense of not being able to vote, not being able to live where they choose, marry whom they choose, go where they choose and so on? There is no doubt a long way to go to overcome the high homicide rate, and other factors, but a democratic country facing serious challenges is still preferable to a racist state.
In the sense of not being able to vote, not being able to live where they choose, marry whom they choose, go where they choose and so on? There is no doubt a long way to go to overcome the high homicide rate, and other factors, but a democratic country facing serious challenges is still preferable to a racist state.
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