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Togo | 14:14 Sat 25th Jan 2020 | News
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It looks as if reality has finally dawned on them
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In Germany, fears are growing that the ship of Europe is sailing troubled waters. Soon it could be dashed on the rocks.
Why the anxiety? The looming impact of Brexit, as politicians and policy-makers across the continent begin to recognise that Britain’s departure represents a daunting challenge to the European project.
According to the relentless propaganda of the pro-EU cause, Europe would forge ahead on the global stage, ever more united, while the UK would slide into insularity and decline.
But that narrative is starting to look like a delusion.
Headed by a strong government and sustained by a dynamic economy, it is Britain that can look forward to the future with confidence, while the EU and its member states remain trapped in bureaucratic sclerosis, obsessed with regulation and welfare when much of the rest of the world is embracing commercial freedom.
Britain looks like it can manage well without the EU. But can the EU manage without Britain?
Your economy is bigger than the 18 smallest EU countries combined. This means in economic terms that the EU will lose not just one member state — but shrink from 28 members to ten.
On a purely fiscal level, the loss of Britain’s contribution will have huge implications for the EU’s budget.
And, on much a deeper level, Europe will also badly feel the loss of the Anglo-Saxon, pro-market business model, when so many EU governments are addicted to a quasi-socialist, big-state, heavily interventionist approach."

There is more much more. Who do you think is saying it? Farage? No...Alexander von Schoenburg. Editor of Bild. It is exactly what some of us have been saying for years but he is not being ridiculed or shouted down. Strange that....perhaps we will get an apology. We have much to celebrate in a weeks time and much to do in the coming years. The first thing we must do however is promise ourselves never to give up our sovereign rights to a foreign power again.

https://expressinformer.com/alexander-von-schoenburg-says-germany-fears-britain-as-they-face-the-reality-of-brexit/
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‘ Built with the Cooperation of our European Which should actually read "Built with some of the €220m (€465 per head) that we received last year from the EU, much of which came from the €10,500m (€175 per head) our UK friends handed over." //Why is the EU collapsing anything to be excited about?// Its uncontrolled collapse would...
17:19 Sat 25th Jan 2020
I reckon Malta would remain. They used to have a popular Calypso song laughing at the poor state of their roads and driving. They now have better roads than the UK with new roads being built constantly.
All the new build there have large hoardings stating ‘ Built with the Cooperation of our European Partnership’.
‘ Built with the Cooperation of our European Partnership’.

Which should actually read "Built with some of the €220m (€465 per head) that we received last year from the EU, much of which came from the €10,500m (€175 per head) our UK friends handed over."

//Why is the EU collapsing anything to be excited about?//

Its uncontrolled collapse would not be anything to get excited about and would, because of the pernicious influence it has managed to gain across the continent, mainly by stealth, cause havoc. However, its controlled demise is desirable and I would say essential if Europe as a whole is to prosper. The EU is built on protectionism. Competitiveness is a dirty word. That's why it will do all it can to prevent the UK from gaining any sort of economic or commercial advantage by leaving (the full article cited by Togo goes into this in some detail). The idea of all EU countries being bound by common labour and environmental laws is simply a camouflage to disguise the fact that no member must gain a commercial advantage over another. The EU trades quite happily with China, India and many less developed nations regardless of how their workers are treated or their environmental habits. But it, allegedly, won't trade freely with the UK (and in fact will go out of its way to make trade and commerce difficult) unless the UK continues regulatory alignment in these areas. It is simply a regulatory, protectionist racket designed to "level the playing field" so that inefficiencies cannot be identified and bettered by more competitive practices.

The EU has had its day and its refusal to adapt to a changing world may be protecting its members from each other but it is failing miserably to ensure those members can compete in the wider world. Furthermore, it has wreaked considerable damage with some of its major policies (particularly the euro and Schengen) especially on some of the smaller countries. That damage needs to end.

That's why the UK had to leave and that's why, unless it changes its philosophy (which is most unlikely) Europe will continue to fall behind the rest of the world (which thankfully, from next week, will include the UK).
If it collapsed that would leave a vacuum into which a fitting European trading group could be formed, without all that federal nonsense. That would have to be a good thing
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The vacuum will be filled by agents from much further East Geezer. It will not be an economic revolution though, it will be a religious and social one. Examples are of this "shift" already exist in what were once European domains.
Perfectly put Togo
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Looks as if the EUSSR is going to be "busy" putting out the bushfires of dissent not just on their own doorstep but Worldwide as well. Now Canada has become less than enchanted by their "ways". Wimps. We had 40 odd years of the lies and duplicity, and the Canadians were less than supportive during the rearguard we had to fight to break free from the insidious regime. Hope they have to fight as long and hard as we did to get justice.......and I hope that the rest of the World is taking notice. Do you think that the EUSSR feels that it could get away with this sort of thing with say China, or America? Me neither classic tactics of the sociopath bully.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1232778/Brussels-Canada-CETA-trade-deal-EU-European-Union-Brexit-latest-news
I can hardly wait for 11 p.m. next Friday. To paraphrase Marx: Britons unite, you have nothing to lose but your chains.
Paraphrasing Marx eh? What could possibly go wrong. :-)
The glee found in the hopeful predictions of doom is fascinating - as are the dreamy descriptions of the Nirvana waiting a week away.
NJ has said it 'The EU has had its day'. It's been seen through. I don't know who else will jump ship soon - but if we make a success of it, others surely will (which is why they will be as nasty as poss. to us and we need to defy them strongly). Could be Denmark, my penchant is for Poland, Italy is fed-up - but may hover because of economic difficulties. Give it a year. Our direction is very important to the decisions of others.

P.S. The bottle of bubbly will have to do double duty --- my elder daughter's 18th Wedding anniversary on 31st------ auspicious date! :)
Some of us will be drowning our sorrows and many who live near/in Oxford will be taking part in a vigil by the Martyr's Memorial while the City Council flies the EU flag in solidarity with our friends and neighbours across the Channel.
Diddlydo, take it on the chin , you lost :0)
Our friends and neighbours will still be our friends and neighbours, diddly. You seem to misunderstand what Brexit means.
And I'll think of you out in the cold and damp next Friday at 11pm, flying your blue flags. Mrs NJ and I will be at a "Brexit" gathering with a number of like-minded freedom seekers in a cosy pub. We've asked the landlord to get in some extra fizzy stuff - English and New World - to toast something that I, personally have been eagerly awaiting for more than 25 years. Cheers!
Be gentle with diddly. The country is brexiting ... and Jeremy lost bigtime. She's smarting.
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If ever a statement summed up the whole rotten establishment mindset and the sly manoeuvres that have taken place during the last 3 years it was made at 22 : 34. Oxford,the home of marxist 5th column traitors going back to the 40s and the likes of David"Pink" Floyd and his spy ring. The louche individuals who are attracted to the place have been working for decades to undermine and destroy our British way of life and sovereign rule. Another creep who got away with it. Unbelievably his son is now knighted and a Lord Justice of Appeal . Didn't realise that communists were fond of Anglican Bishops mind. Perhaps it would serve them well to remember what Hugh Latimer said as he burned at the stake...

""we shall this day light such a candle, by God's grace, in England, as I trust shall never be put out.""
Got my flag ready and the bunting :0) I love a good party
Diddlydo, why cant you get behind the country. It voted to leave and now we are finally doing it. It doesn't really matter how you voted we are leaving. It isn't going to change just because you didn't like the result. If you are that unhappy with the result and you still want to stay in the EU then there are trains, planes and ferrys that will take you there.
Togo - you seem to have forgotten that Oxford spawned the likes of our ultra-right-wing PM. So forget the Marxist c***.

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