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fender62 | 14:56 Mon 30th Sep 2019 | News
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women want autonomy over there bodies, so be it...this is getting like the mad vegans, invading restaurants with placards shouting abuse. what happened to live and let live.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7520325/Stella-Creasy-MP-calls-Home-Secretary-Priti-Patel-stop-harassment-women-Walthamstow.html
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cassa - // Does a half born child, with its head still in the birth canal and it’s body outside wriggling and kicking deserve to decapitated and killed? // The use of emotive images and languages does not aid the veracity of your point. And again here - // If you chose to murder your unborn child for what can often be no other reason than ‘I’m too stupid to...
16:52 Mon 30th Sep 2019
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I love you, Andy:-). Spice clearly posts as a bloke so that is my assumption.
21:59 Mon 30th Sep 2019
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found this on abortion law in the US.
Muted the video at the top of the page, some states have no gestational limit.
Would be nice if there was a consensus on limits, doubt there ever will be tho.
22:00 Mon 30th Sep 2019
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/abortion-laws-us-state-alabama-missouri-legal-roe-wade-rape-incest-a8919461.html

would help if I'd added the link - sorry
22:01 Mon 30th Sep 2019
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Yes... the problem is that many seem to go with "heartbeat" as significant... without apparent awareness that a foetal heart only beats when pushed by the mother's.
The only clear line, surely, is when a foetus is able theoretically to survive outside somebody else's body? Before then, it is part of somebody else.
22:04 Mon 30th Sep 2019
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""The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47066307
22:14 Mon 30th Sep 2019
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Ah, thanks spice. So that is when the mother's life is at risk or the foetus is unlikely to survive long. That wasn't clear on your first posts x
22:17 Mon 30th Sep 2019
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Maybe the aBBC doesn't mention it but the mother's 'mental health' comes into the equation as well.
In the US you can buy any opinion you want.
What kind of opinions do you think abortion clinics pay for?
22:30 Mon 30th Sep 2019
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It's not worth taking seriously the idea that mental health would be an excuse for a baby to be born and then killed after birth. That would be classed as murder. Suggesting that it is being made legal is quite simply wrong, let alone irresponsible.
22:33 Mon 30th Sep 2019
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I don't understand, spice? Clearly, the mental health of the mother is essential for a baby. I have no idea who would pay for what, or why. Only the mother will know if she is willing and able to raise and take responsibility for a child for the rest of her life. Can you clarify please? X
22:35 Mon 30th Sep 2019
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No. I'm sick to death of you. X
22:46 Mon 30th Sep 2019
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Lol. Thanks for your intelligent response:-) xx
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