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Seven Under 18S Arrested After Stabbing A Man With A Screwdriver

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Bobbisox1 | 14:20 Thu 15th Aug 2019 | News
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Well I hope the Snowflake brigade are all proud of their 'softly,softly approach that has young offenders handled with Kidd gloves, What on earth was any under 18 yr old walking around with a screwdriver on his person for,the man died from his injuries

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/eldon-square-murder-investigation-old-16757008
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With a falling number of persons joining the armed services, plus the lack of discipline amongst the young, the time has now come to introduce National Service once again.
12:10 Sat 17th Aug 2019
retrocop - // I don't spin. //

I didn't; say that you did, please read what my posts actrually say, not what you think they say.

//Only those with a mental incapacity to search google will not realise,maybe, that this is not an isolated incident in the Borough of Lambeth.Stabbings and shootings are rife.Youth Clubs haven't solved it. //

I have no idea what the 'mental capacity to search Google … ' as to do with anything, any newspaper will inform on knife crime on any day of the week.

As to youth clubs 'solving' the problems of society, I don't believe that they are equipped to do that, but that's OK, because it's not their job, remit, or responsibility.
They were 'known to Police' I'd like to now what that means. Have they been up before the beak and only got a slap on the wrist prior?

This liberal left wishy washy handwringing approach needs to stop. We are hearing noses from Priti and BoJo but firm actions are needed.

Lets get on with tough sentences fom the outset, drain the judiciary swamp of liberals or make it so they cannot trist the law to suit their warped beliefs. No more automatic parole, 3 strikes and totally out. Murder MUST equal life - all of it - no release no matter what age you are.

Not looking for a cure here, simply removing them from society will make society safer. And it will deter some if they see harsh sentences (and harsh jails too with hard labour).

So lets get building and lock them up.
YMB - // They were 'known to Police' I'd like to now what that means. //

It means what it says.

The police may have stopped and spoken to them, they may have been observed behaving suspiciously, but the police have no reason to interview or arrest them - but they are known to the police.
14.50 ? Seven of us in our family me the youngest.
father did a bunk for whatever reason. So no farther, lived in a deprived area, no youth facilities, very little food, holes in my shoes, rags for clothes, army coats on the bed to keep warm. but NONE of us got into any bother. I was to busy getting a paper round done, sometimes two, at 5.30 in a morning before school, after school from 4.00pm until 6.30/7.00pm scrubbing a butchers shop out, from floor to ceiling after each days trading 6 nights a week, so two jobs, and all the money I earned was given to my mom to help pay the bills, due to lack of farther. So don't give me that tosh about being deprived.
Something widely predicted has now come to pass.
Not surprising really. No discipline, no authoritative responsibility, no family instruction. Feral behaviour from uncontrollable, unemployable, unpunished youths.
Who’d have thought it?
teacake - No-one would suggest that deprivation in and of itself is an automatic precursor to a life of crime, that would be nonsense.

But is remains a fact that children and young people from deprived homes do form the majority of statistics when crime is measured.

It is a factor, but not a reason, the two should not be confused.
"It means what it says. "

Really, never would anyone use spin would they - AH - the chief spinner.
//Oh and ah, if you come on pontificating as you do, on my post with your usual arrogance and pompousness - I AM NOT INTERESTED !!!//

hereiam
Oh my. Golly Gosh. The popularity of this man's popularity knows no boundaries amongst our AB community. Suggest you stop it. It might go to his head. :-)
Andy-hughes is a fine fellow with a first class brain who sometimes is given to pontificating a tad. A modest flaw in a gentleman of his stature. I often thrill to discover that Mr Hughes has beneficially enlightened me upon nearly every subject. His knowledge is only surpassed by my admiration of such a wise, modest, soul.
For several years the much vaunted ex POTUS Obama and David Cameron hit the problem on the head. They both agreed that your average black man was happy to sow his seed produce kids and move on to the next gullible woman to produce more.
Father is not held to account whilst we have loads of unmarried mothers living off benefits who have no father figure, not that this scum can be described as role models to any poor kids.
.Whining about lack of amenitities and resources for these feral murderers does not butter the parsnips. The only facilities and amenities that should be provided tout suite are youth offenders facilities,prisons and hard labour. Make their life hell as they do to other victims of their crimes.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/jul/16/davidcameron.conservatives1
retrocop
//I would not argue regarding the approach to crime - although I would shift the description to include absence of resources,//

This resource supplied for black yoof in a predominately black area (fact) did not cut the mustard did it?//

To be fair, retro, the victim may have stepped on the last ping-pong ball.
Any liberals who still deny there is a problem with 'black culture' in this country are deluding themselves.


retrocop - // hereiam
Oh my. Golly Gosh. The popularity of this man's popularity knows no boundaries amongst our AB community. Suggest you stop it. It might go to his head. :-) //

Have a day off, for God's sake man!!!!!!!
retrocop - // They both agreed that your average black man was happy to sow his seed produce kids and move on to the next gullible woman to produce more. //

If you want to believe the opinions of men whose only interaction with a person of colour is someone who puts plates in front of them or opens car doors, then you go right ahead.

As a matter of interest, what is 'your average black man ...'?

Is it something like 'your average white man' - holds forth like a blustering windbag about stereotypes and casual racism and wouldn't understand a different point of view if it jumped up and bit him?

Just while we are discussing 'your average ...' you understand.
teacake44 at 17:21 Thu, I agree. It's not about being deprived.
gangs are like a family, they percieve life as us and them, the us
is everything, anything beyond us, is an after thought, not worthy of respect..disposable.
Ummm “....Youngsters go out with weapons knowing they might get into an altercation with someone else carrying a weapon....”

If every parent valued their child’s life they would deter them from carrying weapons & NOT make excuses for violence.
With a falling number of persons joining the armed services, plus the lack of discipline amongst the young, the time has now come to introduce National Service once again.
ANOTHEOLDGIT, folk are joining but more folk are leaving so maybe that should be looked at?
THECORBYLOON

One cannot leave once conscripted, problem solved.
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The man was a solicitor in Newcastle, another youth has also been arrested and they've got the main one in custody ,allegedly they were taunting a young girl and the 52 yr old asked them to stop, I hope they throw the book at them but sadly ,they won't

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