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Sally Challen
You may remember me posting this link wishing this woman well.
https:/
She has had the conviction for murder quashed and is now back home.
https:/
She will now face a new trial and again, I hope that things turn out positively for her.
https:/
She has had the conviction for murder quashed and is now back home.
https:/
She will now face a new trial and again, I hope that things turn out positively for her.
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I have had the benefit of reading the judgements in the original appeal against sentence and the latest one against conviction. I am in two minds about this. They had separated and she had moved out; however, they had reconciled and they had spent the afternoon together at the former matrimonial home. That afternoon, she became suspicious that he was...
11:06 Mon 08th Apr 2019
agchristie, the deceased's sons have been campaigning for her release.
You can read about the case here
https:/
You can read about the case here
https:/
I have had the benefit of reading the judgements in the original appeal against sentence and the latest one against conviction. I am in two minds about this.
They had separated and she had moved out; however, they had reconciled and they had spent the afternoon together at the former matrimonial home. That afternoon, she became suspicious that he was continuing his infidelity and there was a minor row. They had been cleaning out the garage and she had put a hammer in her handbag. Later after she got him something to eat she killed him. She went home, but the next day ended up at Beachy Head where she was talked down and arrested.
There is very little in either judgement about the extent or the effect of the alleged abuse she suffered; indeed, this was one of the reasons for the appeal. Thus on the one hand, it appears that she murdered him in a jealous rage; however, the Court of Appeal were persuaded that evidence of the coercive and controlling nature of her husband ought to be before the jury. At present, we simply do not know what evidence her defence team will be adducing.
If it was the case that she was subject to long-term abuse then I do have immense sympathy for her but I cannot help questioning why Counsel at her original trial did not lead such evidence. There have certainly been previous cases where women have killed physically abusive partners and have been convicted of manslaughter as opposed to murder. I imagine the difference with this is that this was emotional abuse (this is the controlling and coercive behaviour). To what extent, remains to be seen.
They had separated and she had moved out; however, they had reconciled and they had spent the afternoon together at the former matrimonial home. That afternoon, she became suspicious that he was continuing his infidelity and there was a minor row. They had been cleaning out the garage and she had put a hammer in her handbag. Later after she got him something to eat she killed him. She went home, but the next day ended up at Beachy Head where she was talked down and arrested.
There is very little in either judgement about the extent or the effect of the alleged abuse she suffered; indeed, this was one of the reasons for the appeal. Thus on the one hand, it appears that she murdered him in a jealous rage; however, the Court of Appeal were persuaded that evidence of the coercive and controlling nature of her husband ought to be before the jury. At present, we simply do not know what evidence her defence team will be adducing.
If it was the case that she was subject to long-term abuse then I do have immense sympathy for her but I cannot help questioning why Counsel at her original trial did not lead such evidence. There have certainly been previous cases where women have killed physically abusive partners and have been convicted of manslaughter as opposed to murder. I imagine the difference with this is that this was emotional abuse (this is the controlling and coercive behaviour). To what extent, remains to be seen.
naomi
/// On the other hand, is it understandable that after years of abuse she finally snapped? ///
Why did she continuously put up with that kind of abuse for all those years, she could have simply walked out on him, years ago, as many other women and men choose to do.
It is not Victorian days, when women were completely dependant on their Husbands suport, women nowadays are independent persons in their own right.
/// On the other hand, is it understandable that after years of abuse she finally snapped? ///
Why did she continuously put up with that kind of abuse for all those years, she could have simply walked out on him, years ago, as many other women and men choose to do.
It is not Victorian days, when women were completely dependant on their Husbands suport, women nowadays are independent persons in their own right.
If you are abused AOG you begin to feel worthless and after being told that you could not survive without them you begin to believe it - if after being verbally abused and continually told that you are rubbish and scum you eventually accept it and can't walk away - after all who would want someone who was rubbish and scum?
It is easy to be flippant and ask “why don’t victims leave?” (and here I am talking about domestic abuse victims generally – and of either sex). The answer to that is because they cant. By the time they realise that they are in a seriously abusive relationship it is too late. They are generally isolated from their friends and family; they have zero self-confidence; they often have no access to money; they are incapable of independent thought because their minds are so addled by the constant abuse, the sleep deprivation and the gaslightling; they are often watched (to the extent of bugs/cameras etc) so actually fleeing is impossible. If they do manage to flee, the abuser is generally quite good at persuading them that to return and that things will improve. Of course, they return – they do not have the strength of mind to resist the overtures that things will change. And then it starts again, but generally worse.
I recall the case of Jordan Worth being discussed a few weeks ago and the shocking abuse suffered by her boyfriend at her hands. https:/
I do not recall anyone asking "Why didnt he just leave"?
I recall the case of Jordan Worth being discussed a few weeks ago and the shocking abuse suffered by her boyfriend at her hands. https:/
I do not recall anyone asking "Why didnt he just leave"?
I must say, having read the Guardian link, it does paint a very different story to the one assumed at the start of this thread. She HAD left, they'd been separated a year and then they were going to reconcile! She seems tormented with jealousy and the hammer in the bag does suggest some premeditation - making it murder rather than killing??? - however I tend to think she's done 9 years and that's probably sufficient.
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