Is This At All Acceptable In Modern Age?

[spathiphyllum]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3960350/I-m-Celebrity-s-male-stars-branded-emotional-wrecks-repeated-tears.html

Shaming men for their emotions. Does the mail know the male suicide rate? Think the DM need to get a grip themselves.

[andy-hughes]

New Judge - // But spathi's point (I think) is that the press should not report the reaction of some of the participants to the ordeals they are voluntarily undertaking for fear of affecting more vulnerable people. Unfortunately if it's on the telly it will get reported. //

I am inclined to agree with your assessment.

If anyone can suggest a genuine reason why this show should not be banned forever - and I don't mean "People like it …" because people would like a show showing cats being electrocuted, so that is not a reason.

I honestly believe, given the human degradation and all-round unpleasantness, voluntarily undertaken or not, combined with the ongoing cruelty to and death of dumb animals - which appears to be sanctioned on the basis that they were not at the front of the queue when physical attraction was being given out - makes this nonsense irredeemable on all levels.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //because people would like a show showing cats being electrocuted//

What on earth ..... ?

[Mamyalynne]

Weird.

[naomi24]

That's one word for it! Got to wonder ......

[Mamyalynne]

Maybe AB is also a social experiment ?

[naomi24]

A veritable zoo...

[spathiphyllum]

They’re not just shaming specific celebs, they’re shaming men who cry, saying they need to man up. That is the implication this outlet is portraying

[Mamyalynne]

Most people will shrug and not care a fig and carry on leading their lives as normal.

[grumpy01]

I have to say I have never watched this programme,however I've got the answer to those who say about watching the celebrities doing these challenges.Perhaps we should get the presenters doing the challenges,I would definitely tune in to see Ant and Dec crawling in a tank of spiders or whatever.P.S. I know Ant isn't there this time.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // andy-hughes, //because people would like a show showing cats being electrocuted//

What on earth ..... ? //

I omitted to say 'some people. rather than 'people', which does imply that the general viewing public will watch anything however loathsome.

In fact my point was, if you take an extreme example of 'entertainment' - whatever a tv company can create and broadcast, there is an audience for it, albeit a minority one, so my argument is that simply saying that people are entertained by this tosh is not necessarily a justification for showing it at peak time on a national tv channel.

[spathiphyllum]

I'm a celeb gets a HUGE global audience. It is not dieing out, and the trials are not getting easier.

[andy-hughes]

grumpy - // I have to say I have never watched this programme,however I've got the answer to those who say about watching the celebrities doing these challenges.Perhaps we should get the presenters doing the challenges,I would definitely tune in to see Ant and Dec crawling in a tank of spiders or whatever.P.S. I know Ant isn't there this time. //

That simply switches one set of voluntary victims for another - which doesn't really address my point.

[andy-hughes]

spath - // I'm a celeb gets a HUGE global audience. It is not dieing out, and the trials are not getting easier. //

It does, and that says something rather sad about the modern psyche.

I remember UK TV audiences being amazed and appalled in equal measure when the wonderful Clive James brought us Endurance, a Japanese game show in which volunteers were subjected to various 'trials'.

As a viewing nation we were aghast that such thing could be served up as entertainment, but we put it down to a fundamental psychological difference in the national temperament - the Japanese can and do enjoy random cruelty as entertainment, as the popularity of this show demonstrated, but we, as Westerners, were seen to be frankly above such base and horrible attitudes conjured up to amuse armchair sadists.

And now look where we are … I honestly believe it should not be encouraged - it demonstrates that suffering, human and animal, is acceptable if it entertains people, and I believe that is immoral.

[naomi24]

Okay.

[spathiphyllum]

Andy, that is simply your perception. If the majority of society like it, then you're the minority.

[emmie]

does it get huge British audiences then? can't say i would ever want to see people eating bugs, as i said i have watched it, but won't again.

[andy-hughes]

Spath - // Andy, that is simply your perception. If the majority of society like it, then you're the minority. //

I am not sure what your point is - beyond making two perfectly obvious statements that don't address my point at all.

[hereIam]

I actually agree with ah about this show and I don't care if I am in the minority.

[kvalidir]

Whilst I personally think it's puerile and don't watch it and it is part of my much loathed theory that TV is being dumbed down, I do watch Takeshi's Castle ( not even sorry) and generally have no issues with people doing more or less anything voluntarily.
I draw the line at animals being hurt and at the degradation of others, but the problem here is the manner in which the media is reporting on it, not even so much the show itself. It's simply being utilised by rags to post sexist claptrap denigrating men.