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May Says It Won't Be A Better Deal
if she goes, who would take her place at this late stage, and if the deal doesn't get through Parliament what happens next.
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As pretty and amusing as it is, your allegory is incongruous, Karl. Most of the people who voted to leave the “bowls club” have no wish to retain any of its benefits or use any of its facilities. The reason the current mess has arisen is because our illustrious leaders who have been “negotiati
15:31 Sun 18th Nov 2018
As pretty and amusing as it is, your allegory is incongruous, Karl.
Most of the people who voted to leave the “bowls club” have no wish to retain any of its benefits or use any of its facilities. The reason the current mess has arisen is because our illustrious leaders who have been “negotiating” our departure have viewed the exercise as one of damage limitation, a problem to be solved, when they should have seen it as the opportunity that it is.
If you want to provide a sporting parable for comparison I suggest you consider the schism that occurred in Rugby Union football at the end of the nineteenth century and into the twentieth. At that time the clubs from the north of the country were increasingly of the belief that their interests were not being served by the southern dominated Rugby Union. In 1895 22 northern clubs decided to resign from the Rugby Union. The RU immediately imposed sanctions against the clubs and their players in an effort to “bring them into line”. But the breakaway clubs did flourish; they didn’t want anything from the Rugby Union and although using the RFU’s existing laws of the game, they gradually constructed their own laws and own competitions. Today Rugby League is one of the most watched and successful sports in the world. Much more appropriate than your bowls club, I think.
Most of the people who voted to leave the “bowls club” have no wish to retain any of its benefits or use any of its facilities. The reason the current mess has arisen is because our illustrious leaders who have been “negotiating” our departure have viewed the exercise as one of damage limitation, a problem to be solved, when they should have seen it as the opportunity that it is.
If you want to provide a sporting parable for comparison I suggest you consider the schism that occurred in Rugby Union football at the end of the nineteenth century and into the twentieth. At that time the clubs from the north of the country were increasingly of the belief that their interests were not being served by the southern dominated Rugby Union. In 1895 22 northern clubs decided to resign from the Rugby Union. The RU immediately imposed sanctions against the clubs and their players in an effort to “bring them into line”. But the breakaway clubs did flourish; they didn’t want anything from the Rugby Union and although using the RFU’s existing laws of the game, they gradually constructed their own laws and own competitions. Today Rugby League is one of the most watched and successful sports in the world. Much more appropriate than your bowls club, I think.
The EU won’t care enough about us “just leaving” to bother.I heard Crispin Blunt - possibly along with Sammy Wilson the most extreme Brexit supporter in Parliament claiming that the EU would be desperate for us not to just crash out. He is of course wrong.
They’ve spent two years on this: they want it to end. The options were spelled out by the PM the other day: they are Deal, no deal or stay.
And no deal won’t happen because we won’t allow it, not the EU. Because we have a lot more to lose.
I still reckon this will be passed eventually, no doubt with some “tweaks”
They’ve spent two years on this: they want it to end. The options were spelled out by the PM the other day: they are Deal, no deal or stay.
And no deal won’t happen because we won’t allow it, not the EU. Because we have a lot more to lose.
I still reckon this will be passed eventually, no doubt with some “tweaks”
All of the leadership candidates people here seem to be clamouring for have no interest in taking the job. Why is that? I should think it's perfectly obvious: they know how hopeless it is to negotiate anything better, and they know how hopeless it is really to crash out with "no deal"; but shouting from the sidelines and distancing themselves from the current mess looks good and appeals to those who still haven't got the message. The UK cannot stand up and reject all that's on offer because to make such a rejection is ruinous in the short term, and therefore of little benefit in the long term.
A leadership change at this point just pours yet more fuel onto the fire. *That's* the real rubbish being spouted.
A leadership change at this point just pours yet more fuel onto the fire. *That's* the real rubbish being spouted.
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