Cousin Marriages, Should They Be Made Illegal?

[youngmafbog]

Seems that it causes defects, must admit I wasnt aware that it was that risky, and we're not just talking the Rednecks here.

What about the potential cost to the NHS if new cultures have a more open acceptance of them?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5927581/The-tragic-truth-cousin-marriages.html

[tonyav]

Some interesting responses to cousin marriages on this link.
http://www.therevival.co.uk/voice-muslim-youth-cousin-marriages

[Peter Pedant]

thanks for the link tony

[EDDIE51]

Yes thanks tony. Very interesting, the 'Will of Allah' is a prominent reason it is accepted . True Muslims believe Allah has a book. This book has a page for everyone who lives and whoever has or ever will live. On 'your page' is written your entire life down to the smallest detail. So trying to change who you will be married to is going against the 'Will of Allah'.

[Peter Pedant]

strong predestination Eddie
it is all decided beforehand

but ... people like Saladin or Mehmet the conqueror did nt hang around thinking - it is all decided by God - - - just wait....
they went out and did it !

er when I did it - a cousin who marries er another one as 1/16 of all genes in common - 6.25% matched or identical
which strikes me as quite high.

and since someone calculated that we all had around 40 recessive bad genes in all of us, then with 6 % identical, around 2 will match up.

and finally since no one has mentioned it
Darwin worried about marrying Mrs D ( eek when was that?)
and so looked at the young men rowing for Oxbridge and also those yhoung gentlemen who were wranglers ( first class maff ) and THEIR parents -
Darwin married his cousin

[-Talbot-]

EDDIE51
Yes thanks tony. Very interesting, the 'Will of Allah' is a prominent reason it is accepted . True Muslims believe Allah has a book.




What odds will Allah give me for England winning the world cup?

[Old_Geezer]

Compulsory genetic counselling crosses the Big Brother line where State interferes too much in a citizen's private matters. On the other hand we already see the sense in making incest unlawful so expanding that definition should be easier to sell to society.

[tonyav]

British Pakistanis are 13 times more likely to have children with genetic disorders than the general population.

2005 so the figures could be different now.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4442646.stm

[ummmm]

They are still being sent back to Marry their cousins though. The documentary I watched the girls didn't even know that's why they were going. There was a campaign by some groups going into schools and teaching them the tale tail signs.

[tonyav]

ummmm, some even at gunpoint apparently.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1162760/british-teenager-forced-marry-cousin-gunpoint-pakistan/

[-Talbot-]

For Funks Sake this is cultural stuff...pack it in.

[tonyav]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/theres-nothing-wrong-with-cousins-getting-married-scientists-say-1210072.html

[ummmm]

Yeah...but that article is not talking about generation after generation of 1st cousins getting married.

[tonyav]

I know, just thought I'd put a different slant on it.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Not the first time this problem has been noted - and ignored:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/7497906/Baroness-Deech-Risks-of-cousin-marriage-not-discussed-for-fear-of-offending-Muslims.html

[vetuste_ennemi]

The much abused Ann Cryer is mentioned in that article.

Which ought to concern people of conscience.

[ummmm]

How would the authorities know though? What can they do about it?

[naomi24]

//she [Baroness Deech ] concludes that it would be wrong to ban cousins marrying, as there are no prohibitions on other types of family that are bad for children such as being raised without a father figure.//

That’s a reason? Really? Rationality is clearly at a premium!!

Of course it should be banned, although as has been said, that won’t stop cousins marrying abroad.

[10ClarionSt]

Two of my cousins married each other, back in the late 70's. The family were very much against it but they got married anyway. The marriage lasted only 10 years. They had 4 children, 2 of whom were badly autistic and had to have constant care. They still do as adults. This isn't an immigrant family, but the point is still the same. There is proof of this, not just evidence. Look at my two cousins.

[Jackdaw33]

Although it has neveer been illegal in this country I am coming round to the view that it should be within the prohibited degrees of matrimony. As has been said, the Queen and Prince Philip are merely third cousins which hardly counts. The last royal first cousins to marry were Queen Victoria and Prince Albert.