Now Who Would Have Thought It?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5592357/Two-thirds-child-refugees-lied-age-18.html

Obviously most of the ordinary persons did, pity our authorities didn't take notice, but then they did everything to hide the fact, with the closed curtains on their coaches and the special barrier screens erected at the reception centres.

[emmie]

makes for disturbing reading, what will happen to them now i wonder, do they get asylum and can stay in the UK as they don;t have papers, or do they get shipped out back to their port of call.

[TheChair]

The DM has such a way with statistics. Of 2,952 who claimed to be under 18, 402 were found to be adults. That's 13%.

[ChillDoubt]

Remember the furore when one MP suggested having them dentally checked in order to clarify their ages? They were shouted down with accusations of racism.

Recent events involving said ‘refugees’ came back to haunt the UK, didn’t they?

[ummmm]

How can that possibly be considered racist?

[youngmafbog]

402 does not paint a good picture either though does if TheChair? It should be 0.

"what will happen to them now i wonder"

No doubt they will be given a council house, car benefits and are currently applying to bring their wife, kids, parents and grandparents in under their new found "human rights".

[ummmm]

Do you not get bored of spouting the same bull on a daily basis?

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// Do you not get bored of spouting the same bull on a daily basis? ///

You just keep your head firmly buried in the sand my dear, then you won't have to face the realities that are taking place around you.

[fiction-factory]

They get car benefits? That seems scandalous. Have you got details please YMB?
You say that ideally the figure would be zero. But can we really control who tries to claim asylum. And it's good that the officials found the liars out ebfore it was too late

[naomi24]

//can we really control who tries to claim asylum.//

No, but we can control who's granted it - and who's thrown out.

[Togo]

Of the 2,952 asylum claims.......705 were involved in AGE DISPUTE!!
Of the 618 of these AGE DISPUTES that were "resolved" 402 were found to be adults. 402 is 66.4% of 618.....
Who has a way with "statistics" do you think?
The "unresolved" AGE DISPUTE cases numbering 87 could, of course, all have been children in the real world.

[jim360]

None of the figures is wrong (assuming the source is right), but it's pretty clear that having "two-thirds" and "3,000" in the headline is meant to suggest that there are a couple of thousand lying "children", rather than a fifth of that. It's a pretty common trick of sensationalist media. I mean, sure, the article goes on to explain the real figures, but it's still a (deliberately) misleading headline.

[anotheoldgit]

fiction-factory

/// And it's good that the officials found the liars out ebfore it was too late ///

That was the trouble they didn't, wasn't one who was fostered by an elderly couple recently jailed?

*** Officials insisted all the migrants were aged under 18. But some looked several years older, with crow’s feet and flecks of grey hair. ***

[fiction-factory]

>That was the trouble they didn't, wasn't one who was fostered by an elderly couple recently jailed?

That wasn't an issue about whether he was a child though was it?
I'm sure some lie and get through the checks but clearly the figure show that age is being challenged. Or are you saying the figures are amazingly high (two thirds) and yet too low (we're not catching some- the other third?) ? I'm not clear what you are saying really.

[-Talbot-]

Haven't these children been through enough?

It's scandalous that some doubt the age of some of these men.

[anotheoldgit]

fiction-factory

/// I'm not clear what you are saying really. ///

I thought I made myself perfectly clear, the authorities let too many adults in posing as children.

[emmie]

so they do AOG, and its time the authorities cracked down on this.

[cassa333]

They should be deported to the country of origin (possibly France) and permanently excluded from ever returning to the UK.

What they did was put themselves above legitimate children in need.

The backlash against migrants in general and Calais migrants in particular is in part because any sane and reasonable person could see these 'children' were not children but fully grown men.

Because of these men and the diabolical UK border system there were children left living in squalid and unacceptable conditions.

I would like to say lessons in common sense and less fear of being ladled racist or uncaring should be learnt but it isn't worth it. They will do the same because their hands are tied.

[jourdain2]

^^ Here, here, cassa.

[naomi24]

^and here.

[-Talbot-]

^And a hear, hear here.