Very Disturbing Reading, Why All The Sensitivity?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5511627/Telford-social-services-did-stop-illegal-relationship.html

/// Their abusers, meanwhile, have hailed predominantly from the Pakistani community. ///

/// As a result, police, schools, councils and social services have repeatedly been accused of failing to properly investigate the abuse for fear of being accused of Islamophobia. ///

/// Yet many believe the failure of authorities to properly hold to account those involved in grooming gangs will fuel ethnic tension. ///

[Gromit]

Cassa,
I have not read anywhere that the parents in this tragic case had complained to the police. Their girl got pregnant by him for a 2nd time. He was never prosecuted as a groomer, or for his relationship with the girl. The original Court case in 2001 labels him her boyfriend, and everyone, including the father, seem to have accepted that.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/three-killed-by-jealous-boyfriend-1-2421422

[anotheoldgit]

TTG

/// It's covered up to stop race-hate crime. ///

There are also some ABers who given the power would not wish such news items to be entered up for discussion on AB even.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - // There are also some ABers who given the power would not wish such news items to be entered up for discussion on AB even. //

Any names in mind - or is this just a blanket insult inferring that there are AB'ers who would deny free speech?

[-Talbot-]

There are quite a few ABers that will ignore the content of the OP and attack the OPer... especially when it comes to threads with the Muslim element.

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - // There are quite a few ABers that will ignore the content of the OP and attack the OPer... especially when it comes to threads with the Muslim element. //

This looks like the opening salvo in one of your thread-diverting personal spat provocations, so I for one will be delighted to ignore it.

[-Talbot-]

But you haven't (as usual)

[andy-hughes]

Case proved!

[-Talbot-]

Exhibit 2 ^

I think it is my case that has been proved.

[bainbrig]

I suppose having this barmy corner of an obscure UK website is preferable than having all the ’white-van men (and women)’ promulgating their nasty, ignorant views out in the real world, although sometimes I would like to discuss aspects of the news with cultured and sensitive people.

But you can’t have it all.

[-Talbot-]

Anything to say about the OP bainbrig?

[andy-hughes]

bainbrig - // I suppose having this barmy corner of an obscure UK website is preferable than having all the ’white-van men (and women)’ promulgating their nasty, ignorant views out in the real world, although sometimes I would like to discuss aspects of the news with cultured and sensitive people.

But you can’t have it all. //

Not that 'obscure' - it was mentioned on Steve Wright's show in the days when they had a Website Of The Day.

As for the cultured and sensitive people, there are dozens of us here, and we will all be delighted to bring your levels of culture and sensitivity up to ours, assuming that's possible.

[bainbrig]

Just said it, tablot. Do keep up.

[-Talbot-]

Anything to say about the OP andy-hughes?

[-Talbot-]

It is attitudes like yours that have allowed this mass rape, trafficking and general abuse of young girls up and down the country to continue for decades, bainbrig ... but hey at least you have signalled that you are not Islamaphobic.

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - // It is attitudes like yours that have allowed this mass rape, trafficking and general abuse of young girls up and down the country to continue for decades, bainbrig ... but hey at least you have signalled that you are not Islamaphobic. //

You should be deeply ashamed of that post - and not for the first time.

To state that the attitude of a stranger gleaned from a couple of posts on a website means that he is complicit in such dreadful crimes is a disgusting thing to say - hopefully you may reconsider and offer your apologies.

[Spicerack]

And his contempt for working class people.

[-Talbot-]

You should be deeply ashamed of that post - and not for the first time.



Well I'm not and there is nothing wrong with my post.

The OP is not about the attitude of white van men/women or about people who bainbrig believes to have the 'percieved' attitude of white van men/women.

Yet you see nothing wrong with that accusation do you...tells me plenty about you. (tbh I already knew this)


This thread is about white girls being drugged, raped, trafficked and in this case killed.


Anything at all to say about the OP andy-hughes and bainbrig?

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - // The OP is not about the attitude of white van men/women or about people who bainbrig believes to have the 'percieved' attitude of white van men/women. //

In that case, why are you responding to what he has said, and then asking if people have anything to say about the OP?

You can either stick to the OP exclusively, as you appear to be asking others to do, or you can follow the standard practice for the site, which is to follow debates and conversation where they go.

You can't have it both ways.

[-Talbot-]

Neither of you has addressed the subject matter in the op ... you are both attacking other ABers.

Why not try doing both?

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - // Neither of you has addressed the subject matter in the op ... you are both attacking other ABers.

Why not try doing both?

From 16:36 yesterday -

// AOG - //No need for the aggressiveness Jack. //

I don't believe Jack is being aggressive, simply making a valid point.

If there is a news item that involves an ethnic minority, it usually ends up on here, and is usually posted by you.

You post the same stories, people answer with the same answers - as asked, what else do you expect? //

And for the record, I have not 'attacked' anyone, I have taken issue with a viewpoint, which is what people do on here, it's called debate.