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E U “It Is Difficult To See Any Alternative To The Continued Application Of The Common Fisheries Policy”.
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"Outside the EU, an EEZ extends 200 nautical miles (370km) off a country's coastline, giving the state the authority to exploit and control the fish resources within this zone." http://
11:32 Fri 17th Feb 2017
Perhaps we should use Iceland's fishing policy template. Whilst being a part of the European Economic Area (EEA), which allows it to participate in the European single market, it retains sole (pun intended) rites to fish what it claims to be Icelandic water. Iceland's exclusive fisheries zone has an area of 760,000 square kilometers, seven times the area of Iceland itself. Sounds good to me for cod's hake.
It is the UK Government that permits foreign factory ships to operate in British waters.
We are allocated a quota, designed to preserve fish stocks. The Department of Ag then license boats to catch that quota.
Take the case of the Cornelis Vrolijk. It operates out of Hull under a British flag. The British Government (not the EU) have allocated it 23% of the total British quota, while small boats get a fraction or none of the quota. It is a Dutch owned vessel, and lands its catch in Holland.
It is the UK Government who are putting small boat owners out of business, not the EU.
We are allocated a quota, designed to preserve fish stocks. The Department of Ag then license boats to catch that quota.
Take the case of the Cornelis Vrolijk. It operates out of Hull under a British flag. The British Government (not the EU) have allocated it 23% of the total British quota, while small boats get a fraction or none of the quota. It is a Dutch owned vessel, and lands its catch in Holland.
It is the UK Government who are putting small boat owners out of business, not the EU.
Talbot.....the EU are not trying to blackmail us. Any harm to any part of industry post Brexit, will be due to the majority leave vote. Likewise any benefit. But it doesn't look like the fishing industry will be one of the latter.
Togo.....last I heard, the legal position on whether we leave the EEA as an automatic process of leaving the EU wasn't decided. Yet another complication.
Togo.....last I heard, the legal position on whether we leave the EEA as an automatic process of leaving the EU wasn't decided. Yet another complication.
I didn't mention leaving the EEA. I pointed out that Iceland was in it and had a very favourable fishing deal with little bargaining leverage compared to the UK. Then again, the people of Iceland were united in their "negotiations" with the EU, and didn't have to contend with a fifth column movement trying to sabotage every strategy suggested to wring the best for Britain from the pyramid scheme.
Samjenko
No really. The Ministry of Ag licenses who can fish our quota, not the EU.
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No really. The Ministry of Ag licenses who can fish our quota, not the EU.
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Togo....I know you didn't mention leaving. My post was designed to show that leaving may well be an inevitability of leaving the EU.
Were you aware that it is only EU subsidies which keeps all EU fisheries profitable?
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Were you aware that it is only EU subsidies which keeps all EU fisheries profitable?
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-Talbot-
Apologies, I am guilty of misleading about our fishing areas.
Our territorial waters are 12 miles, and no one else is allowed inside that.
But we also have an Exclusive Economic Zone which can extend 200 miles from our coast. Because we have neighbouring countries our EEZ is much smaller than that, but it is more substantial than I led ABers to believe.
Our EEZ is red on this map.
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Apologies, I am guilty of misleading about our fishing areas.
Our territorial waters are 12 miles, and no one else is allowed inside that.
But we also have an Exclusive Economic Zone which can extend 200 miles from our coast. Because we have neighbouring countries our EEZ is much smaller than that, but it is more substantial than I led ABers to believe.
Our EEZ is red on this map.
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//In 2009 the entire EU fleet was making a 4.6% loss when direct income subsidies were not taken into account. With the subsidies the fleet was still operating at a 1.5% loss. For the trawler fleet segments the loss was even larger.
These figures were presented at a seminar in the European Commission last week, and add to the dismal numbers presented by the Commission in June in a report on the economy of the European fishing fleet.//
Yep sounds like EU economics at work. Of course before the British fishermen were forced to join the pyramid scheme the UK fishing industry was a thriving and profitable industry employing 1000s at sea and even more in the land based support industries. But lo and behold join the EU and "subsidies" (bribes) are necessary to make it viable, with the ever present threat that you do as they bid or the handouts will cease. Meeh.
These figures were presented at a seminar in the European Commission last week, and add to the dismal numbers presented by the Commission in June in a report on the economy of the European fishing fleet.//
Yep sounds like EU economics at work. Of course before the British fishermen were forced to join the pyramid scheme the UK fishing industry was a thriving and profitable industry employing 1000s at sea and even more in the land based support industries. But lo and behold join the EU and "subsidies" (bribes) are necessary to make it viable, with the ever present threat that you do as they bid or the handouts will cease. Meeh.
I wonder if the HoL EU committee will follow thru on their promis to consult fishing communities? I wonder whether that consultation will be worth diddly-squat come the time for exit negotiations?
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-Talbot-
Apologies, I am guilty of misleading about our fishing areas.
Our territorial waters are 12 miles, and no one else is allowed inside that.
But we also have an Exclusive Economic Zone which can extend 200 miles from our coast. Because we have neighbouring countries our EEZ is much smaller than that, but it is more substantial than I led ABers to believe.
Our EEZ is red on this map.
Ba Dooosh!
Apologies, I am guilty of misleading about our fishing areas.
Our territorial waters are 12 miles, and no one else is allowed inside that.
But we also have an Exclusive Economic Zone which can extend 200 miles from our coast. Because we have neighbouring countries our EEZ is much smaller than that, but it is more substantial than I led ABers to believe.
Our EEZ is red on this map.
Ba Dooosh!
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