Woolworths: " We Are A Muslim Business"

[agchristie]

This, from Germany. Sign of things to come?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/735211/Woolworth-Germany-cancels-Christmas-Dortmund-customers-Muslims

[New Judge]

“Have you not noticed how when an area goes Asian it only takes a few years before almost all the children in a particular school are Asian. What's happened to the white ones ? “ [divebuddy]

“Maybe you should move, divebuddy. “ [fiction-factory]

Er…er…er

[dannyk13]

Was the intention to state that they are a Muslim friendly store?

[naomi24]

Danny, the intention was to stop stocking goods they can’t sell to the majority of their customers. It's good business practice.

[agchristie]

Danny, whatever message, depending on which rep you believe, is immaterial.

The bigger picture to focus on here is the result of depositing a large amount of migrants into a given area and thus tipping the balance as in this case.

The upshot being that influences change and that the existing local population becomes outnumbered in favour of another culture. If this is replicated then it doesn't take a crystal ball to predict the future.

[dannyk13]

An unfortunate remark by a staff member then.

[dannyk13]

I live in a city with a very large Muslim population and the shops are all full of Christmas goods.

[-Talbot-]

FF, I don't think you have understood Mamyalynne's post @23:18 Tue 22nd Nov 2016

[naomi24]

Danny, //Ms Preisert said there were hardly any customers who celebrated Christmas as the shop was in a now mainly Islamic area which had created specific "local conditions”.//

I take it your city doesn't compare to that^ though?

[Mamyalynne]

FF, my intention was not to imply you had said anything wrong at all - you hadn't.

[andy-hughes]

From nowhere, a paper using a misunderstanding to whip up some anti-Muslim feeling - so no change there.

And judging by the 'Groundhog Day' exchanges from the usual participants on here, it is worked nicely.

But to return to the OP - 'a staff member' has advised a customer that Woolworths is 'a Muslim business' - hardly the official line is it?

Then, along comes a manager with a perfectly reasonable explanation of why they are not stocking Christmas items - they simply didn't sell last year - so it is a matter of proper stock control, not religious bigotry.

Why do people fall for this nonsense?

[Mamyalynne]

The non story was however a seasonal gift to many.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes/mamyalynne. Why is it a non-story/nonsense? A major store in a German city no longer sells Christmas goods because there are no longer customers in that area to buy them. The implications of the report go beyond the poorly worded statement the member of staff made – and that is worthy of discussion. The changing face of Europe should concern us all.

[agchristie]

I would be willing to bet that there are a few 'Savile Town's', Dewsbury, in Germany by now.

[Mamyalynne]

Ghettoes occur as I stated not only when people move into an area but importantly when large numbers also move out - yes you're right that aspect did deserve the discussion.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - it's nonsense because the headline does not lead you to conclude that this branch of Woolworth's is not selling Christmas goods because there is no market for them - as you suggest, a legitimate discussion point.

But the headline - careful to use inverted commas, leads with a statement designed to cause upset, and which is patently untrue.

[New Judge]

"Then, along comes a manager with a perfectly reasonable explanation of why they are not stocking Christmas items - they simply didn't sell last year"

Indeed, simples! But it's not that simple, Andy. What needs to be understood is the underlying reason behind the lack sales of Christmas-related goods.

As I said in my earlier answer (and in my answers to the "German Islam" question) people need to understand what is happening across Europe. The changes that are constantly highlighted are always dismissed as either of no relevance or too insignificant to worry about or simply lies drummed up by an anti-Islamic press.

There are large numbers of areas across Europe (including here in the UK) where Islam prevails (and I won't go into the details because I've done so on many occasions in the past). Those areas are becoming larger and greater in number and anyone who denies this or dismisses it as scaremongering is delusional. Islam is having a profound effect on many places and the influences it imposes are usually not welcomed by the population already there. It’s alright for most of us who choose to ignore this to do so, but European politicians are burying their heads very deeply in the sand. If and when they finally emerge they may find they've been down for a little too long.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, It was a quote - hence the inverted commas - and frankly, I don't think it is that difficult to understand what the member of staff meant. Insofar as there are no non-Muslim customers at that branch it is a Muslim business. I see nothing to be picky about.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - I do understand that use of inverted commas for a quote - but taking one isolated comment by one member of staff and inferring that it speaks for company policy is duplicitious.

To me, the notion of a 'Muslim business' infers that it is certainly run for Muslims, and therefore logically by Muslims, and the further inference is that Christmas items are not being stocked because they go against the notion of a 'Muslim business'.

And none of this is true.

That is what is wrong here.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, you’re reading something that isn't there. I saw no inference that it was company policy. Common sense alone should tell you that a shop worker can’t speak for a multi-national business.