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Nhs Funds Need Urgent Boost, Say Mps

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mikey4444 | 10:49 Mon 31st Oct 2016 | News
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-37801100

Pre-empting some enviable criticism of this post, this isn't being said by Corbyn or a bunch of lefties, or God forbid, some "anti-British"....its being said by the Health Select Committee.

This Committee is chaired by a Tory MP, who is also a Doctor.

To quote from the link..... "The Health Committee has written to the chancellor to say using the figure gives the "false impression that the NHS is awash with cash".

Is the NHS still safe in their hands ?
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Mikey.....Over the years, many years, I have come. sadly, to the conclusion that I hesitate to believe any statistics, figures or studies that are produced by any aspect of the NHS......Sara Wollaston may be correct.....I have no idea.


\\\\Is the NHS still safe in their hands ?\\\

Not again mikey....please.

morning Sqad, while you're there;
I have this old scratched Record that keeps playing the same old sound bite over and over, do you think Ibruprofen would help silence it?
I don't think it is necessarily unsafe.The problem lies in the fact that the NHS is such a big user of funds and both sides of the political spectrum have very different views on how it can be best achieved.Surely in the 21st century it is more important than ever for the NHS and Education to become apolitical and a consenus opinion on the running of both be sought for the good of all, be they left or right politically.
Oops, strayed into the echo chamber.
Baldric......LOL.....we could try Ibuprofen.
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Morning Sqad !

This statement is from the work of the Committee, not just its Chair. I have no reason to disbelieve the Committee and its conclusion.

As regards my oft-quoted remark of a sainted former Leader of the Tory Party, she said it, I didn't. I am merely quoting her.

Its quite clear from the work of this Committee that there is, and will be a serious under-funding of the NHS.

We can go all the way back to 1948 if you like and wish it was different, but we are where we are now, and we can't avoid the huge cost of people living longer. I don't make any distinction between Hospital care and the after care needed when someone is discharged. And nor should our Government.
Mikey, //As regards my oft-quoted remark of a sainted former Leader of the Tory Party, she said it, I didn't. I am merely quoting her. //


But why do you continue to quote her? She said that 35 years ago and the NHS is still with us so why keep asking the question when you already have the answer?
Meanwhile as cancer sufferers are denied palliative medicine to ease their suffering.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-37817622
The NHS does not need more money, what it does need it total overhaul.

Unfortunately people like you continually harping on abut the amount of cash spent on it means it has become political suicide to do anything.

Ironically it is you and your fellow harpers who will bring the NHS down not any political party.
youngmafbog, //The NHS does not need more money, what it does need it total overhaul. //

I agree. It is grossly mismanaged and has been for years.
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YMB....this report is from the Commons Health Committee, chaired by a Tory, not "me and my harpers" whatever that means. I presume that you don't believe what this independent says ?
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Everybody is missing the point of this report and this post.

The Committee has made it clear that the Government is being "economical with the truth" I repeat, this Committee has a Tory Chair, not a Chair from Labour HQ.

Even when your own side tells you the truth, you right-wingers don't believe them !
Mikey, //The Committee has made it clear that the Government is being "economical with the truth"//

No it hasn’t. It said that the figure is not incorrect but the way it is calculated is misleading.

//Even when your own side tells you the truth, you right-wingers don't believe them !//

I believe them.
Ah Dr Sarah Woolaston, the infamous turncoat who quit Brexit to swing her handbag for the Remainiacs. No doubt looking for an advancement up the greasy pole with a leg up from Cameron. No Axe to grind there then. She wrote in February 2016
“So why am I heading towards the door? I am in love with the possibilities of the EU but can no longer ignore the grinding reality of the institution.” 4 months later in an interview with the BBC, Wollaston said that she had undergone a change of heart after her postal vote arrived and she started to think how she would feel on the morning of 24 June if the result of the referendum turned out to be a victory for the leave campaign. “I realised I would feel a sense of loss, that we had lost something, and I am now actually going to vote to remain,” Well we know how she feels, churlish, and in destructive mood just like the rest of the pyramid scheme supporters.  Judging by the responses she seems to get on her social media accounts, the good people of Totnes have seen through the façade she has built. That being of a self serving chancer who is prepared to do or say whatever she thinks will enhance her own prospects. She is no more a Tory, than Bliar was a socialist. The British public though, have learned to look straight through these grasping charlatans. Well some of us have.
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Ah ...shooting the messenger ! Always a good defence, when you can't think of anything else to say !
Once more I will repeat,nay I will shout :- LET US USE FUNDS FROM THE NATIONAL LOTTERY TO HELP FUND THE NHS. I know that quite a lot of cash goes to help the Arts etc. THE NHS IS BENEFICIAL TO US ALL, SO USE LOTTERY FUNDS TO HELP OUT. End of rant.
When the messenger is Wormtongue it is the prudent solution.
WR, no point unless the NHS is overhauled. But as I said be fore that will not happen because of Mickey and his mates banging on about Tory cuts all the time.

You could pour all the money in the world into it and it would just disappear. Too many with snouts in the trough and mini empires.

Brown did give this a go, his actions proved injecting cash is a waste of time it does not get to the front line.

“YMB....this report is from the Commons Health Committee, chaired by a Tory, not "me and my harpers" whatever that means. I presume that you don't believe what this independent says ?”

“Independent” means little Mikey. It is a political committee. Politicians equate success with spending other people’s money. Spend more money, get more success is their mantra. As has been said, the NHS needs a radical overhaul. And I mean radical, not just faffing about at the edges, installing another layer or two of management and pushing on.

A good place to start would be with GPs. The Labour administration doubled their salary and cut their workload. I have a dodgy knee. I’ve had some treatment from the hospital and have been discharged. But I have told the problem will recur and probably worsen. But guess what? If the problem recurs I cannot just make a fresh appointment with the hospital. I have to see my GP first. For most ailments GPs prescribe asprins and if you’re not better or dead within a fortnight they send you to see somebody who knows what they’re talking about. And that costs £100k per annum per doctor. Of course they’re busy and overworked because they are seeing people like me whom they cannot help. For most people (not those who see a visit to the GP as a day out) all they need is a website: 1. “Type in your postcode” - 2. “Select your ailment from this drop down list” (Dodgy knees, bad guts, lungs not working, etc.) and up comes a list of specialists for you to contact. No GP necessary.

This is the sort of overhaul that the NHS needs. Thinking outside the box, doing the unimaginable. Chucking more money at it is simply cash down the drain. It also has far too many patients. But I won’t go there at the moment.
Well I will go there.

We have just imported a load of new 'patients'. And when their relatives are suddenly found and their human rights to a family life observed we will have a few million more.

We are on the last straw and the camel has been groaning for some time.

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