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Ex Premier League Footballer Dalian Atkinson Tasered To Death
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http:// www.dai lymail. co.uk/n ews/art icle-37 41176/M an-38-d ies-pol ice-sho ot-Tase r-Telfo rd.html
My thoughts go out to his poor father.
My thoughts go out to his poor father.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.nailit - ////we should be looking at reducing, not increasing them//
Maybe we should also be looking at ways of reducing deaths by tasers as well then?? Like banning them //
Not really comparable I feel.
There is a major issue with guns in the hands of criminals, and civilians without the training and restraint needed.
But tasers are almost exclusively used by law enforcement officers to restrain criminals. Yes fatalities occur, but that has to be seen within the wider context of non-lethal use.
Maybe we should also be looking at ways of reducing deaths by tasers as well then?? Like banning them //
Not really comparable I feel.
There is a major issue with guns in the hands of criminals, and civilians without the training and restraint needed.
But tasers are almost exclusively used by law enforcement officers to restrain criminals. Yes fatalities occur, but that has to be seen within the wider context of non-lethal use.
And what sort of protection do you propose to give our boys, and girls, in blue when they answer a 999 only to be faced with a firearm then. You really want them to threaten with a truncheon?
Anyway you can kill someone with a truncheon so I suppose you dont even want that. Guess you;re one of those yoghurt knitters thats would want to sit down ad talk to them. Well not you obviously doubt you would have it in you.
Anyway you can kill someone with a truncheon so I suppose you dont even want that. Guess you;re one of those yoghurt knitters thats would want to sit down ad talk to them. Well not you obviously doubt you would have it in you.
The current police guidance on the use of Tasers appears to have been ignored in this case. Multiple discharges are not recommended.
// Repeated, prolonged and/or continuous exposure to the Taser electrical discharge may cause strong muscle contractions that may impair breathing and respiration, particularly when the probes are placed across the chest or diaphragm. Users should avoid prolonged, extended, uninterrupted discharges or extensive multiple discharges whenever practicable in order to minimise the potential for over-exertion of the subject or potential impairment of full ability to breathe over a prolonged time period. //
// Repeated, prolonged and/or continuous exposure to the Taser electrical discharge may cause strong muscle contractions that may impair breathing and respiration, particularly when the probes are placed across the chest or diaphragm. Users should avoid prolonged, extended, uninterrupted discharges or extensive multiple discharges whenever practicable in order to minimise the potential for over-exertion of the subject or potential impairment of full ability to breathe over a prolonged time period. //
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youngmafbog
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And what sort of protection do you propose to give our boys, and girls, in blue when they answer a 999 only to be faced with a firearm then. You really want them to threaten with a truncheon?
It doesn't work that way.
When a report is made of an incident involving firearms, it's specialist firearms units who are dispatched, not regular officers.
Also, truncheons???
You asked:
And what sort of protection do you propose to give our boys, and girls, in blue when they answer a 999 only to be faced with a firearm then. You really want them to threaten with a truncheon?
It doesn't work that way.
When a report is made of an incident involving firearms, it's specialist firearms units who are dispatched, not regular officers.
Also, truncheons???
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It appears to have been the Mails idea rather than AOGs to use a misleading phrase
///Former Premier League footballer Dalian Atkinson attempted to murder his 85-year-old father **before police Tasered him to death,** it has been claimed.///
Although it does sound as if the Police were a bit over enthusiastic with their Tasers
///Then he was Tasered and he fell to the floor. I heard the taser go off again a number out times, **at least four or five**, when he was on he ground.///
Baldric - //It appears to have been the Mails idea rather than AOGs to use a misleading phrase
///Former Premier League footballer Dalian Atkinson attempted to murder his 85-year-old father **before police Tasered him to death,** it has been claimed.///
Although it does sound as if the Police were a bit over enthusiastic with their Tasers
///Then he was Tasered and he fell to the floor. I heard the taser go off again a number out times, **at least four or five**, when he was on he ground.///
The major reason why independent investigations have to be dispassionate and thorough is because, in the heat of the moment, different people recall different events.
I have read reports that suggest that an initial two taster shots did not work, and that a third incapacitated Mr Atkinson. I have not read reports that advise he was kicked by officers.
A proper investigation will separate fact from faulty memory and post-incident sensationalising.
///Former Premier League footballer Dalian Atkinson attempted to murder his 85-year-old father **before police Tasered him to death,** it has been claimed.///
Although it does sound as if the Police were a bit over enthusiastic with their Tasers
///Then he was Tasered and he fell to the floor. I heard the taser go off again a number out times, **at least four or five**, when he was on he ground.///
The major reason why independent investigations have to be dispassionate and thorough is because, in the heat of the moment, different people recall different events.
I have read reports that suggest that an initial two taster shots did not work, and that a third incapacitated Mr Atkinson. I have not read reports that advise he was kicked by officers.
A proper investigation will separate fact from faulty memory and post-incident sensationalising.
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