Is Racism On The Increase In This Country, This Person Seems To Think So?

[anotheoldgit]

So what she was spat on so are many other people spat on by disgusting species of humanity.

There was once a woman in my area who would spit on anyone who past her on the street, but then this woman had a mental illness.

/// We are also frighteningly vulnerable because anti-racists have given up on the struggle, unlike feminists or those fighting for gay rights. The Equalities and Human Rights Commission is, frankly, moribund and we could, but don’t, use the web to campaign against racial prejudices. Where is our Peter Tatchell? Where, indeed, is the next generation Anthony Lester, the human rights supremo who pushed through race relations legislation? ///

Where is our Peter Tatchell Yasmin Alibhai Brown asks, they are everywhere I say.

[FrogNog]

It's a nice diversion to say that you've put me over the top divebuddy.
far from it. I would say your views are more over the top than mine.
I don't need to prove you right or wrong. I lived there.

[agchristie]

DB

Are you still following my thread also?

[sp1814]

Frognog

I know exactly what you're talking about.

I don't know the areas you're referring to, but I've lived both in affluent and extremely poor and racially diverse, and very 'middle-classed' areas of London, and have never felt the need to scurry around in fear once.*

I suspect other contributors to this thread have wildly different experiences growing up. Perhaps they come from areas which were prodominantly 'mono-cultured' and have since seen the influx of EU and non-EU residents.

To me, that wouldn't make a damn of difference. All I would be concerned with is is crime, house values and peace and quiet.

There are some who immediately associate the social evils with certain cultures. I am not so sure of this, having had the 'pleasure' of doing a tour of duty around the less salubrious parts of Glasgow back when I worked for a high street bank.

I associate bad neighbourhoods with high unemployment and a lack of opportunities...rather than anything else.

But then, that would complicate matters...so, perhaps we should keep it simple.






(*and this includes the famous Aylesbury Estate in Walworth, a place so rough it was used as location shooting in The Bill...it was the Jasmine Allen estate in the show).

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// It used to be black people, or brown people...now its anybody who isn't white ///

All other colour skin colours please stand up and be counted.

[anotheoldgit]

divebuddy

I can backup your 21.50 post.

There is an area near to me that has large Victorian and Edwardian houses, which in the distant past were owned by doctors and solicitors, that was before the Asian infiltration when they were slowly bought up by Asian to house many families.

When they were all taken up and the area turned into a predominate Asian area, the council had all the roofs replaced (even though they were privately owned) and the owners were given the option either to have their front area blocked paved for the parking of their vehicles, or they could have smart small walls and gates, simply because it was deemed a deprived area.

[Svejk]

Are you watching C5, aog? Yasmin is on, telling us to let all immigrants in.

[sp1814]

Holy cow!

AOG - you've given me 'Best Answer'.

Thank you sir.

I now have to sign off, as I've just noticed the Four Horsemen of the Apocolype galloping down the road outside my office.

[Brenden]

Pay a visit to Brick Lane in Tower Hamlets - it is an eye opener to the failure of integration and a bid to making it a no-go area to non- muslims, and before you shoot me down and label me (again) racist go see for yourselves.

[Zeuhl]

I was in Brick Lane two weeks ago.

I am 'non muslim' as is my companion at the time.

I didn't notice any attempts to make it 'no go' for us

Brenden, can you describe them so I might notice them next time I 'go'?

[sp1814]

Brenden

Brick Lane is a really, really bad example.

I used to work in Aldgate, up the road, and we used to go down to Brick Lane almost every Friday night after work for a post-pub curry.

Describing Brick Lane as a 'no go' area is like decribing Chinatown in Soho as a no-go area. It may be down to personal perception, but I have never felt unwelcome in either place.

Brick Lane has one Indian restaurant after another, and rather than it being 'no-go', it's actually quite annoying trying to negotiate your way down without being collared by waiters trying to get you into their establishments.

Honest - I worked around there for a few years, and have never once felt like I, nor my wallet, we're not wanted.

[sp1814]

Brenden

What does Brick Lane have to do with Muslims?

I always thought of the area as being largely Indian?

[Zeuhl]

^

Apparently Brenden has a vivid imagination not hindered by too much in the way of facts or personal experience :-)

[youngmafbog]

sp, probably this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brick_Lane_Mosque

But having said this I have been going up Brick lane for over 20 years, like you say it is not a problem.

However, go off the beaten track a little and it is not quite so pleasant.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// AOG - you've given me 'Best Answer'. ///

Credit where it is due, old man.

[mikey4444]

DB...the fact that there some non-white people in the places that your mention is not the same as daft and childish remarks that you made yesterday. Its just scare-tactics. Britain is a polyglot country and always has been, since Julius Caesar and before. People like you never define what Britain used to be like and would like it to be again, without using race, colour and now religion as your waymarks.

My Dad, when he first came to London before the war, had to face boarding houses with sign up saying "No Blacks, No Dogs and No Irish" If people like you had their way, we would be back in those "Good Old Days" again. The days of ignorance and intolerance.

Racism is alive and kicking in Britain and yet you say "Well, I don't think that racism is on the increase". So why make stupid remarks like equating Britain with Karachi then ?

[tonyav]

So why make stupid remarks like equating Britain with Karachi then ?


mikey, I posted this at 21.25 last night and I stand by it.



tonyav
Mikey, you should make a visit to Sparkbrook Birmingham.

[mikey4444]

DB...what an insulting way to debate ! You have joined my select list !

Bye Bye !