Anti Homeless Studs

[DrFilth]

> treat the homeless like animals <

this is new to me, never seen them or heard about them till this morning, in the past i have seen pebbles laid in concrete and i would presume that they were for the same reason

any views ?

http://news.sky.com/story/1277765/metal-studs-treat-the-homeless-like-animals

[Svejk]

mmm, I answered this once, it disappeared into the ether.
The gist of what I said was, good idea. The foyer isn't designed for people to sleep in. I'd imagine some people felt uncomfortable 'clambering over'/seeing someone there when coming in/going out.
I always presumed pebbles were placed in concrete for aesthetic reasons and to make it harder wearing. Do you think its to make tramps uncomfortable? I must admit, I never considered that. ;-)

[rockyracoon]

This is a toughie I think, whilst the humanitarian inside me feels it's awful, would I really want homeless people plotting up in my porch every night? No I wouldn't.

It's a shame that in this day and age people are still homeless and that needs to be tackled at government levels.

[Svejk]

leave 1 there and you would probably be inundated. Some ain't too fussy about where they go to the toilet, as well.

[DrFilth]

> I always presumed pebbles were placed in concrete for aesthetic reasons and to make it harder wearing. <

i have seen pebbles in the same kind of position as the studs in the link above so i would presume it is to just keep the homeless sleepers away

[anneasquith]

at least the people responsible should have the balls to admit they installed them.

[DrFilth]

to be honest anne i can understand people not wanting the homeless to be in the space near their entrance to the flats due to what Svejk has posted

i think in the link i have posted in mentions a few plants that would look much nicer and do the same job

in manchester they have moved the soup kitchens out of the city centre to try and make the homeless stay out of sight in the evening

[Sqad]

Homeless, helpless, jobless, poor,undernourished was the scene in 1948....but now after 60 years of State Welfare, we have homeless, helpless, jobless, poor and undernourished.

What have we done to improve the lot of the electorate?

We have taken money that i have "slogged " away to earn and given it to the homeless, helpless............etc etc.

Not much to show eh? except to provide "studs" to keep the homeless...etc out of sight.

Well worth it in my opinion.

[Peter Pedant]

Sqad - you are now paying tax er in Spain arent you ( e verdad)
a well known economic basket-case....

but thx for telling us you once paid UK tax....

[Sqad]

PP......errm!......fine........or whatever.

[DrFilth]

sqad you will still see them no matter how many studs you put down

think of all the trade the chiropractors could get from these studs

[Sqad]

Filthy...LOL.

Do you remember the Indian performer who would lie on a "bed of nails."..............now the bloody things have been blunted.

[tamborine]

Try teetering high heels on stones. Cobblars!

[DrFilth]

sqad just looking at some pictures of those

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=man+sleeping+on+a+bed+of+nails+photographs&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbo=u&source=univ&;sa=X&amp;ei=TDKUU-KyO4PfOOvNgIgB&amp;ved=0CCUQsAQ&biw=1047&bih=466#facrc=_&amp;imgdii=_&amp;imgrc=Yy30wxluSS_GrM%253A%3Bw39COG5qvSRTCM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fi.dailymail.co.uk%252Fi%252Fpix%252F2009%252F12%252F14%252Farticle-0-0796A471000005DC-300_468x286.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%252Fsciencetech%252Farticle-1235619%252FHow-I-Is-lying-bed-6-210-nails-torture-true-bliss.html%3B468%3B286

[Sqad]

Filthy....LOL. and the modern generation are worrying about "studs."

[DrFilth]

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charles has done some good videos on the homeless in manchester
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq9K8aT1oCg

[DrFilth]

sqad can i just point out that the atos medical place is just up the street past where the rolls is parked in the video

do you think it could be owned by one of the atos medical people ?

[cassa333]

I wouldn't want homelss people sleeping in my porch so I don't see anything wrong with putting these down. It is a lot easier to clean as well.

[Eve]

It's a very visible issue in Manchester, especially down Oxford Road and into the city centre via Portland Street, you can see a lot of people sleeping rough, especially early on when I'm getting into town just after 6am on work days.

Probably before shops and businesses are opened up and they are thrown out of doorways, many of which probably need sanitising after, I know in one place I worked it was quite common to also have used needles and drug paraphernalia, urine and excrement. There is also a hygiene issue due to issues like infected leg ulcers due to drug use.

Metal shutters seem to be getting more popular, so no inset doorways, though likely other issues contribute, after the riots, football issues etc...

There always seem to be lots of beggars, it has caused issues with coffee shops, bars and food places which have pavement side seating and I heard a rumour of one thinking of getting security guards to deal with issues such as customers being harassed and getting abuse/aggression when asked to be move on. Intoxication by drink and/or drugs is a further factor.

There can be intimidation by cash points, outside shops, at bus shelters etc... and it getting more common to have beggars asking for money, on buses and trams where, like cafes and such, it is harder to walk away.

It's such a shame as, although some don't want the help, there are shelters and soup kitchens but they don't seem to be helping the issue much. I seem to see far more on a daily basis now than I have over the years.

[Sqad]

Filthy.....i would have thought it very unlikely that a doctor doing employment medical assessment would own a new roller. That would be owned by someone in the private sector of commerce more likely and probably did not live or perhaps work in Manchester......I could be wrong.