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puternut | 07:18 Sun 27th Apr 2014 | News
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Naomi...I agree with all the Pollsters when they say that the Tories will come third in the forthcoming Euro Elections. I also agree that UKIP will probably gain more seats than Labour There is no evidence to the contrary that I can find anywhere. dave has rather more to lose than Ed on May 22nd.
Think most ruling parties lose in mid-term elections - maybe wrong
Maybe, in the kingdom of the bland the swivel-eyed man is king.
AOG

What about the number of anti-UKIP stories in the right wing press...such as the Daily Mail.

How do you explain that?
AOG

In what way is having black people or gay people ruining tv?

Please explain.
//dave has rather more to lose than Ed on May 22nd. //

You hope.
Yes, of course I do naomi, but the Polling organisations, and the Bookies are non-partizan, and they all say the same thing.

So its not just my opinion is it ? What do you think ? Do you think that the Tories are going to win the election on May 22nd ?
No, I think Ukip is going to win it - which means all the other parties lose.
AOG....I am interested as well as SP1814, so yes, please explain.
But naomi...who is going to come third, Labour or the Tories ?
Hey scooping I always use "in the kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is king" same sentiments different words.
sp, I have no problem with L H's talent as an actor, he is on a par with many others, it is the notion that he is creative as a comedian that puzzles me.
In the anodyne, magnolia-hued, bland, broad consensus of modern British politics being different is important.
Take, for example, the SDP in the early Eighties - way ahead of others in the polls. Their popularity, albeit short-lived, was in many ways not a rebellion against Labour policy or even the, then, highly unpopular Tory government. It was an attraction to something new, to something that offered 'hope' and 'change'. However misguided its proponents may have been, or not been, the dull (to most) business of politicking was briefly enlivened.
The same may now be true. We should not be surprised when the new seems more attractive than the old. Labour, after all, started winning elections when it re-branded itself as 'new'.
In some respects Mr Henwood has a valid point:

"I think if black people come to this country and don't like mixing with white people why are they here?”

It has always intrigued me that people should come to a country that so blatantly offends or upsets them in various ways. It’s not as if the facilities, views and attitudes in this country are a well kept secret and in any case large numbers of people coming here already have friends and/or family here who can tell them just what it’s like. But, as they say, there’s now’t so queer as folk.

Of course where his argument falls down a tad is that Lenny Henry did not “come here” as he was born in Dudley.

As for his remarks comparing Islam to the Third Reich, some might suggest that does the Third Reich a grave injustice.

Think many are missing the point. Lenny Henry simply said he wished more black people, British black people, were active in our artistic and cultural life. And some idiot chose to misinterpret that perfectly reasonable remark.
And, New Judge, if you meant that remark about Islam doing the Third Reich a grave injustice that's the most offensive comment I've read in my brief time enjoying the company of ABers.
New Judge

Lenny Henry was born in Britain.

Being a millionaire, I suspect he may have paid a tidy sum in tax and NI over the years - so should he not have a voice?

Why should he emigrate to 'a black country', when he is British?
NJ

Oops - sorry. Didn't read your whole post. I agree that this young man's point about Lenny Henry collapses when you consider that this is his country.
sp1814, Dudley were Len is from is pretty much the centre of the '' Black Country''.
Mikey, //But naomi...who is going to come third, Labour or the Tories ? //

Probably the Tories. Can't see much glee for Labour either if they come second.

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