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This report was ready for publication in 1996 but was suppressed "because insurers feared compensation claims." Unbelievable but true !
Should the people responsible for this cover-up be prosecuted for lack of judgement, especially as some of the children subjected to a level of abuse described as bestial by the reports author John Jillings later committed suicide ?
This report was ready for publication in 1996 but was suppressed "because insurers feared compensation claims." Unbelievable but true !
Should the people responsible for this cover-up be prosecuted for lack of judgement, especially as some of the children subjected to a level of abuse described as bestial by the reports author John Jillings later committed suicide ?
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@Tetjam - How is Tom Watson "made to look idiotic" by this latest news about the report? and "Are all homosexuals paedophiles.
17:42 Mon 08th Jul 2013
It is shameful that a report highlighting such serious wrongdoing to vulnerable children in the care of the council, abused it some cases by the very professionals that should have been there to help them was suppressed because of legal advice to the council regarding compensation claims.
I suspect that such a legal interpretation was seized upon by council leaders as a means of keeping a lid on the whole sorry scandal, and despite this report, despite an inquiry some 4 years later that reached the same conclusions, we are still being let down by the very system that is supposed to protect the vulnerable, far more concerned, it appears, with saving face and saving jobs and reputations than in exposing corruption or incompetence or criminality.
From the Jillings Report
"Our investigations have led us to conclude that the abuse of children and young people in Clywd residential units has been extensive and has taken place over a substantial number of years."
It added: "It is clear that, in a significant number of cases, the lives of young people who have been through the care system in Clwyd have been severely disrupted and disturbed. At least 12 young people are dead.
"Of the many statements taken, it is unclear how many were forwarded to the Crown Prosecution Service for consideration. It is also unclear how many other professionals, including police officers, were named in these statements as perpetrators of assaults."
And that same culture persists, as has been so graphically demonstrated with the recent child grooming rings - evidence again that social services staff and/or police and health workers ignored evidence, or in the recent CQC scandal, where the first instinct was to redact the names of those responsible for banning the publication of a report into the failings of Morecambe Hospital...
I suspect that such a legal interpretation was seized upon by council leaders as a means of keeping a lid on the whole sorry scandal, and despite this report, despite an inquiry some 4 years later that reached the same conclusions, we are still being let down by the very system that is supposed to protect the vulnerable, far more concerned, it appears, with saving face and saving jobs and reputations than in exposing corruption or incompetence or criminality.
From the Jillings Report
"Our investigations have led us to conclude that the abuse of children and young people in Clywd residential units has been extensive and has taken place over a substantial number of years."
It added: "It is clear that, in a significant number of cases, the lives of young people who have been through the care system in Clwyd have been severely disrupted and disturbed. At least 12 young people are dead.
"Of the many statements taken, it is unclear how many were forwarded to the Crown Prosecution Service for consideration. It is also unclear how many other professionals, including police officers, were named in these statements as perpetrators of assaults."
And that same culture persists, as has been so graphically demonstrated with the recent child grooming rings - evidence again that social services staff and/or police and health workers ignored evidence, or in the recent CQC scandal, where the first instinct was to redact the names of those responsible for banning the publication of a report into the failings of Morecambe Hospital...
I experienced a bit of breath-holding and gasping when I read this.
Reports do get shelved - I would think more than are acted upon.
the other side of the coin is - if we dont do something we will get the ar+se sued off us later.
around that time, I had a few run-ins with my MD who used to chorus
the lawyers are insisting we do it like this....
and I would protest - you are paying them so you tell THEm what to do ...
and he would take on his directorial look and say it is very very difficult....
Reports do get shelved - I would think more than are acted upon.
the other side of the coin is - if we dont do something we will get the ar+se sued off us later.
around that time, I had a few run-ins with my MD who used to chorus
the lawyers are insisting we do it like this....
and I would protest - you are paying them so you tell THEm what to do ...
and he would take on his directorial look and say it is very very difficult....
Sandy...I'm not sure if this clip will entirely answer your question, but here goes ::::
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PP..........I got the impression from the BBC News clip that I have just published that the insurance companies threatened to withdraw cover if the report was published. And according to Councillor Malcolm King, former chair of social services at Clwyd County Council, they threatened him personally by saying that he should be "relieved of his office" if he continued to speak out.
Extraordinary behaviour.
Extraordinary behaviour.
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give a clickable thingey from which you can get yur very own copy of the redacted report.
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give a clickable thingey from which you can get yur very own copy of the redacted report.
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The trouble with putting a lid firmly on a boiling pot is that sooner or later it is going to boil over, and the results will be far worse than if the trouble was dealt with promptly. Cowardice, fear of embarassment, need for really hard difficult work, need to ask and hear nasty information - it is so much easier to find an excuse (" too expensive " ) and sweep it all under the carpet.
But doesn't it make you wonder how many of the investigators might have been abusers themselves ( secretly, elsewhere, maybe ) and feared their own crimes might come to light ?
How many more nasty festering secrets need to be uncovered ?
But doesn't it make you wonder how many of the investigators might have been abusers themselves ( secretly, elsewhere, maybe ) and feared their own crimes might come to light ?
How many more nasty festering secrets need to be uncovered ?
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@Tetjam - How is Tom Watson "made to look idiotic" by this latest news about the report?
and
"Are all homosexuals paedophiles..are all paedophiles homosexual,perhaps you had better enlighten us,mikey?"
I do not understand this comment at all - its self evidently an incorrect observation - and why are you directing the question at Mikey? >confused<
and
"Are all homosexuals paedophiles..are all paedophiles homosexual,perhaps you had better enlighten us,mikey?"
I do not understand this comment at all - its self evidently an incorrect observation - and why are you directing the question at Mikey? >confused<
