Why Is This? It Never Happened In 'my Day'.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/education/violent-school-pupils-attack-900-london-teachers-a-year-8440965.html

In Britain we may not have anything like India's brutality to women, thank goodness, but then I don't think India's teachers have to endure the same treatment as our teachers apparently do.

/// One of the most notorious attacks on a teacher happened at Westminster City School in 2004 when a teacher was raped by Dwayne Best, then a 15-year-old pupil, as she was marking books in a classroom. ///

/// In January last year, a boy of 10 was arrested over a vicious attack on two women teachers in Orpington which left one with a broken leg. ///

/// “I was quite scared, especially because of the kind of community I was working in. Outside school the knife culture was happening. We were worried about repercussions when you left the building. Kids used to say, ‘Wait until after school’ and ‘Watch what is going to happen’.” ///

[RATTER15]

Sqad, hitting children to make them obey is deserving of no respect at all!

[Sqad]

RATTER......you keep on repeating the same old cliche and you may well be right, all I am suggesting is that you respect the diametrically opposed opinion.

[gness]

I was smacked with a belt and the hand. Has it done me any harm? Yes. The only good it did I suppose was to make me decide never to strike my children. Five between us and neither OH nor I smacked them. Five lovely, respectful and productive children and the eight grandchildren are the same. Never a problem at school.
One reason I gave up work when I did was the reluctance to take any more physical and verbal abuse from junior school children. Were they smacked at home? You bet they were. Is it doing them any good? No.

[gness]

Ratter is right. The argument/discussion should we hit children can be short. No. Never, ever hit a child.

[Zeuhl]

/all I am suggesting is that you respect the diametrically opposed opinion. /

sqad, is that the opinion that hitting children to make them obey is respectable?

No, sorry.

Whilst I support the concept of respecting the rights of others to have a different opinion, that stops at the point where that opinion involves inflicting violence on children

Another related example, would be my unapologetic lack of respect for the paedophile opinion that having sex with children is ok

[Sqad]

Zeuhl....yes you are correct.............I really must change my views.

[RATTER15]

Well said Gness and Zeuhl!!!

[sandyRoe]

Without chastisement in schools children who have already learnt at home they they can do pretty much as they like will continue as they were and only get worse.
Other pupils in their class suffer and schools also suffer when decent teachers decide they've had enough and leave the profession.

[Zeuhl]

/Zeuhl....yes you are correct.............I really must change my views. /

LOL
Only some of them I hope sqad

Keep the fun ones :-)

[ummmm]

They do still get punished in schools. Just not violently. With my sons school if they misbehave they get sent to 'refocus', how long for depends on the behaviour. Refocus is a silent class room where they have to sit in cubicles so all they can see is the teacher. It's not a lesson, they just have to sit their in silence.

I'd rather get a slap than sit bored out of my skull all day (including breaks and lunch)

[ummmm]

*there

[sp1814]

ummm

Refocus?

Is that how they've rebranded 'detention'?

[ummmm]

No...they get detention, that's for after school. Usually when they haven't completed their homework. Refocus is all day from registration until the home bell goes.

[emmie]

hitting a child is never an option, either in the home or at school, it just shows that you haven't got the answer, and have resorted to violence.

[Zeuhl]

Refocus Room sounds like our old Language Lab

Get them to check in the desk, there may be an old reel-to-reel in there

[joeluke]

'In my day teachers could throw chalk, blackboard erasers, pens etc at children. Cane them, push them, offer to rearrange their face.

All of which would be considered wrong today.'


It might not have been very PC behaviour but it taught us to respect our elders though

Unlike todays youth who have little or no respect for their elders

[ummmm]

Very much like that, Zeuhl, except the partitions are bigger so they can't see anything to the side of them.

It does work.

[ummmm]

Speak for your own kids, Joe, mine show respect...

[emmie]

they showed fear not respect, that is the difference.

[Mamyalynne]

If corporal punishment worked back then, why was it always the same ones queued up outside the Heads office?