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Tower Seven - What Do We Think?
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It did "fall down" quite tidily. None of that messy business where the bit that's "on fire" falls down first.
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i don't believe officialdom is competent enough to initiate any of these conspiracy sort of things.
as evidence, i cite the following e-mail, which i received the day after the london bombings on 7th july 2005:-
E-Mail:
From: xxxx.xxxxxxxx - Borough Emergency Planning Co-ordinator
To: Big List of People
Sent: 07/07/2005 10:37
Subject: GOLD ALERT - IMMEDIATE ACTION
Effective immediate: All London Local Authorities have been placed on GOLD ALERT.
Local Emergency Plannning Groups to implement and staff Borough Control Rooms and contact GOLD CONTROL.
(note: my correspondent received this because if they activate the Borough Emergency Control Room he needed to stop all maintenance work at the two main office buildings and clear the emergency generator for immediate use - along with a number of other relatively trivial actions)
Borough Emergency Control Staff to implement Plan A.
(note: this means that the Emergency Control Room to be set up in Meeting Room 1 at the Civic Centre using the standard equipment and personnel, and that no failure of the main power supply is anticipated - so far, so good.)
(Note: In the 11 years he worked at xxxxxxxx Borough they had never had any reason to set up the Emergency Control Room except during exercises - this becomes more apparent when you read the next line)
Please be advised that Meeting Room 1 is currently being used for a Finance Heads Group Meeting, and will not be available until 13:00. I have reserved it after 13:00 and so Borough Emergency Planning Staff should assemble in Meeting Room 1 at this time.
as evidence, i cite the following e-mail, which i received the day after the london bombings on 7th july 2005:-
E-Mail:
From: xxxx.xxxxxxxx - Borough Emergency Planning Co-ordinator
To: Big List of People
Sent: 07/07/2005 10:37
Subject: GOLD ALERT - IMMEDIATE ACTION
Effective immediate: All London Local Authorities have been placed on GOLD ALERT.
Local Emergency Plannning Groups to implement and staff Borough Control Rooms and contact GOLD CONTROL.
(note: my correspondent received this because if they activate the Borough Emergency Control Room he needed to stop all maintenance work at the two main office buildings and clear the emergency generator for immediate use - along with a number of other relatively trivial actions)
Borough Emergency Control Staff to implement Plan A.
(note: this means that the Emergency Control Room to be set up in Meeting Room 1 at the Civic Centre using the standard equipment and personnel, and that no failure of the main power supply is anticipated - so far, so good.)
(Note: In the 11 years he worked at xxxxxxxx Borough they had never had any reason to set up the Emergency Control Room except during exercises - this becomes more apparent when you read the next line)
Please be advised that Meeting Room 1 is currently being used for a Finance Heads Group Meeting, and will not be available until 13:00. I have reserved it after 13:00 and so Borough Emergency Planning Staff should assemble in Meeting Room 1 at this time.
Tower Seven had an unusual design, built over an electricity substation and a subway; there were many fires that burnt for hours; and crucially, fire fighters could not fight the fires in Tower 7, because they didn't have enough water and focused on saving lives.
Investigators have focused on the east side where the long floor spans were under most stress.
They think fires burnt long enough to weaken and break many of the connections that held the steel structure together.
Most susceptible were the thinner floor beams which required less fireproofing, and the connections between the beams and the columns. As they heated up the connections failed and the beams sagged and failed, investigators say.
The collapse of the first of the Twin Towers does not seem to have caused any serious damage to Tower Seven, but the second collapse of the 1,368ft North Tower threw debris at Tower Seven, just 350ft away.
Tower Seven came down at 5.21pm. Until now most of the photographs have been of the three sides of the building that did not show much obvious physical damage.Photographs of the south side of the building, which crucially faced the North Tower, show that whole side damaged and engulfed in smoke.
No conspiracy.. and no casualties because it had long been evacuated.
Investigators have focused on the east side where the long floor spans were under most stress.
They think fires burnt long enough to weaken and break many of the connections that held the steel structure together.
Most susceptible were the thinner floor beams which required less fireproofing, and the connections between the beams and the columns. As they heated up the connections failed and the beams sagged and failed, investigators say.
The collapse of the first of the Twin Towers does not seem to have caused any serious damage to Tower Seven, but the second collapse of the 1,368ft North Tower threw debris at Tower Seven, just 350ft away.
Tower Seven came down at 5.21pm. Until now most of the photographs have been of the three sides of the building that did not show much obvious physical damage.Photographs of the south side of the building, which crucially faced the North Tower, show that whole side damaged and engulfed in smoke.
No conspiracy.. and no casualties because it had long been evacuated.
Thing is JJ you've made your mind up.
That video only show one side of the building and not the side which was damaged..For a tall building to fall like that only the supports at the base need to fail and the weight of the upper floors will do the rest.
If anybody seriously believes the US Government attacked and killed 3000 people in New York then they are nuts.
That video only show one side of the building and not the side which was damaged..For a tall building to fall like that only the supports at the base need to fail and the weight of the upper floors will do the rest.
If anybody seriously believes the US Government attacked and killed 3000 people in New York then they are nuts.
Au contraries, WBA ...
I have NOT made my mind up ... but the pro Government believers HAVE.
I try to open up a debate, but the response is just ... Laa laa laa, the Govt wouldn't kill people, we can't heeeear you.
Consequently, we brush aside all the structural engineers who say that the tower would have fallen sideways, unless all of the structural supports failed at PRECISELY the same moment ... And the chances of that were almost non existent.
I have NOT made my mind up ... but the pro Government believers HAVE.
I try to open up a debate, but the response is just ... Laa laa laa, the Govt wouldn't kill people, we can't heeeear you.
Consequently, we brush aside all the structural engineers who say that the tower would have fallen sideways, unless all of the structural supports failed at PRECISELY the same moment ... And the chances of that were almost non existent.
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