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So were we right to assist?
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As Libya prepares for its first election do the anti war brigade (well represented on this site) now agree that we 'did the right thing' ?
Or would they have prefered to read about more Gaddafi slaughters jut so they could bask in their own self satisifaction?
Or would they have prefered to read about more Gaddafi slaughters jut so they could bask in their own self satisifaction?
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Is there a pro-war brigade on this site or anywhere in Britain?
In Libya , we achieved the objective with minimal action. It was right for Gaddafi to be removed by the people. But there must be a practical limit to the number of repressive dictators that we, or anyone else, can remove by force of arms, mustn't there?
In Libya , we achieved the objective with minimal action. It was right for Gaddafi to be removed by the people. But there must be a practical limit to the number of repressive dictators that we, or anyone else, can remove by force of arms, mustn't there?
@ YoungMaf - Not sure why you think any of the "anti-war brigade" on this site, as you characterise them, would object very strongly to what was done in Libya.
Following reports of the slaughters of the Gaddafi regime, the UN passed several resolutions, condemning the actions of the regime and freezing their assets, as well as referrring Gaddafi to the International Criminal Court.
When Benghazi was threatened with heavy weaponry, the UN passed a "no- fly" resolution, and authorised the use of all necessary force to defend civilians.The UK, France and the US were all instrumental in enforcing the no fly zone. and then maintaining it. So, limited military intervention, sanctioned by the UN, supported by Libyans and the Arab League, for a humanitarian cause - I think you need to stop conflating all anti-war protesters and resolute pacifists, steadfastly opposed to any sort of military response.
All of this action represented limited military intervention by the UK and others, and was both justified and affordable, both in terms of logistics and economics.
So, it wasnt a war, nor did we commit to boots on the ground (although there were probably special forces and advisers)- why do you imagine anyone here would object, or "bask in their own self-satisfaction", as you so poetically put it?
Following reports of the slaughters of the Gaddafi regime, the UN passed several resolutions, condemning the actions of the regime and freezing their assets, as well as referrring Gaddafi to the International Criminal Court.
When Benghazi was threatened with heavy weaponry, the UN passed a "no- fly" resolution, and authorised the use of all necessary force to defend civilians.The UK, France and the US were all instrumental in enforcing the no fly zone. and then maintaining it. So, limited military intervention, sanctioned by the UN, supported by Libyans and the Arab League, for a humanitarian cause - I think you need to stop conflating all anti-war protesters and resolute pacifists, steadfastly opposed to any sort of military response.
All of this action represented limited military intervention by the UK and others, and was both justified and affordable, both in terms of logistics and economics.
So, it wasnt a war, nor did we commit to boots on the ground (although there were probably special forces and advisers)- why do you imagine anyone here would object, or "bask in their own self-satisfaction", as you so poetically put it?
Gromit
/// If only the Syrian people could discover large quantities of oil under their land and then we might "do the right thing" for them also. ///
Not that old oil 'chestnut' again?
/// Syria is the only significant crude oil producing country in the Eastern Mediterranean region, which includes Jordan, Lebanon, Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. According to the Oil and Gas Journal, Syria had 2,500,000,000 barrels (400,000,000 m3) of petroleum reserves as of January 1, 2010. ///
/// If only the Syrian people could discover large quantities of oil under their land and then we might "do the right thing" for them also. ///
Not that old oil 'chestnut' again?
/// Syria is the only significant crude oil producing country in the Eastern Mediterranean region, which includes Jordan, Lebanon, Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. According to the Oil and Gas Journal, Syria had 2,500,000,000 barrels (400,000,000 m3) of petroleum reserves as of January 1, 2010. ///
Yes, aog, Syria has oil but not nearly enough. Syria is expected to be a net importer of oil within ten years. Your 'old chestnut' is that countries get invaded or regimes changed for the oil. Not worth invading or changing the regime of a country that's soon to be importing oil, is it ? (The more so, if it's fully armed with modern weaponry!}
No we really shot ourselves in the foot.
We had a brief to protect civillians
We interpreted that as a green light to do whatever we wanted from the air.
Directly striking Gaddafi's forces and command and control sites.
We abused the trust of the Arab league
It's a prime example of why we should stay out of these things
We had a brief to protect civillians
We interpreted that as a green light to do whatever we wanted from the air.
Directly striking Gaddafi's forces and command and control sites.
We abused the trust of the Arab league
It's a prime example of why we should stay out of these things
