Oh dear- vatican & child abuse

[tinkerbell23]

http://www.sott.net/a...ormal-back-in-his-day

Oh dear...seen this link...going to look a bit further ito it before i comment x

[starone]

Bloomin' 'eck I'm glad I'm an athiest.

[tinkerbell23]

Ah....im catholic!! :0/

Hence the looking further into!!!!

[Gromit]

That's dated 2010. If there was any trufth in it, I suspect we would have heard more of it in the past 12 months.

[tinkerbell23]

Oooh is it?

Thanks G ....ill continue to look x

[China Doll]

On that link there seems to be a post of what he actually said. Some of it is out of context.

I'm not defending him though, the catholic church is a disgusting establishment in my opinion. (I'm not mad keen on any religion in fairness).

[jno]

as far as I can see what he said was broadly correct. But the headline on the story would impress even the Daily Mail editor with its inaccuracy. He doesn't say it's not that bad. He doesn't say it was ever normal.

[tinkerbell23]

Im proud of my religion...i am....

I guess i practice when i want to ....

However...would never EVER condone anything like that...and think anyone who ever even considered touching a child should be bloody shot...

X

[Gromit]

It is a report from the Belfast Telegraph.

Do you think they might have some kind of agenda and are preaching to the converted?

Not excusing the Catholic Church for their appalling abuse, by the way, but this just seems like crude propagander.

[tinkerbell23]

Im proud of my religion...i am....

I guess i practice when i want to ....

However...would never EVER condone anything like that...and think anyone who ever even considered touching a child should be bloody shot...

X

[birdie1971]

This story highlights a very interesting concept – one that many people fail to understand and/or address. It is that morals are not an unchanging, absolute truth. Morals can and do change. Many people falsely equate the word 'moral' and its variants with the concept of right and wrong. This is simply not correct because the fact is, morality changes from generation to generation.

For instance, slavery is considered to be morally reprehensible today and yet in biblical times, slavery was morally acceptable (Timothy 6:1-2). Homosexuality was considered so abhorrent in biblical times that it was punishable by death (and still is in some countries). Today, in most western cultures, homosexuality is not considered to be morally wrong unless you're a god-fearing Christian/Muslim/Jew and even then, it is unlikely that those god-fearing individuals would call for the death of said homosexuals.

Like it or not, morals are malleable concepts which can and do change over time. What was once moral is now immoral and vica-vera. It never ceases to astound me that certain religious people on this website like to claim some kind of moral superiority over those of us who don't believe by suggesting that without religion, people would be immoral when the very thing they purport to be defending is an abstract concept that is forever changing.

[tamborine]

Seems it happens more in Ireland RC churches than elsewhere. My bruvs went to catholic schools & they confirm no abuse was apparent, they were also altar boys & in the choir.

I dont think Rome was aware of the abuse at the time and if they were, the RC church is not above regional law that could/should have applied.