Have to agree with you murraymints, it's ridiculous how it's become now, spoils the whole concept of Christmas. People going over the top too soon, things in the shops "shoved down our throats", tv ads on and on till you get sick of it. It always used to start early December, people looked forward to it, didn't have that much money but made it into something to enjoy and celebrate...not much of that now with the greedy consumer society IMO... AFAIC they can do away with it now because it's been spoilt...roll on early January when it's all over and done.... Scrooge? You bet but only by others having driven me there...scream.