Radio 5 Riots discussion

[factor-fiction]

Any one listening to poor Victoria Derbyshire running a discussion in Tottenham about the riots?
Very depressing. The audience is 90% convinced it was all the police's fault, it was visitors not locals whay done it, it's because of the cuts ...

[sunny-dave]

... did anyone mention the intergalactic lizards running the world yet?

[factor-fiction]

Lizards?
Have a listen- but be prepared to hear lots of people shouting out over each other, but there's no doubt they all feel very aggrieved

[flip_flop]

I'm not - but I find this attitude extremely annoying.

As far as I can tell, the 'rioters' (for rioters read thieves, vandals and asonists) will pretty much blame anybody or anything other than themselves.

Any political, legal or social excuse used to underwrite the 'riots' is completely bogus and is being used simply to justify their wanton thuggery and thievery.

Anybody, and I will brook no argument on this, who was involved in the riots is a complete scumbag

[factor-fiction]

"the police still haven't learnt their lesson"
A few minutes ago someone suggested it is going to explode during the Olympics.
The whole discussion shows that the problems could so easily flare up again- people seem so angry with the police

[bednobs]

i had to turn it off

[anotheoldgit]

I didn't listen to the Radio 5 discussion, but to me it wasn't visitors who rioted and looted.

It all started because the family of the man who was shot by the police, assembled at a police station to get some answers regarding the killing, this in turn attracted a large group of locals, who then finished up by turning the proceedings into a huge riot and looting spree.

Yes the police were in a way to blame, simply because they chose to just stand back and let the mob carry out their looting.

But one cannot blame the police officers themselves, the blame should be levelled at their 'superiors' (and I use that term loosely)
obviously it was them who dished out the orders to 'tread carefully'.

All too often we witness this political correct 'hands behind their backs' attitude, 'velvet glove treatment' and 'treading on broken glass' approach taking place, especially when certain minority groups are involved.

It was due to this 'ease in looting' that the Tottenham experience was copied by other groups across the country, and had the police operated a 'zero tolerance' attitude in Tottenham I doubt very much if these other looting rampages would have taken place.

[flip_flop]

So you agree then Steve?

[rov1100]

Its the first time I have heard of rioters against the state taking their anger out on high street stores and pinching their tellies.