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Ex soldiers to run the first Boot Camp in Greater Manchester

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Bobbisox | 11:58 Fri 02nd Sep 2011 | News
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in two years time, if it is a success then others will follow.
As yet, I haven't seen anything to say it takes on 16+ , it is aimed at unruly school kids to give them a direction in life,
Already the School head teachers are against such a move..
what do you think?
Will it work?
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why are the teachers against it? Look at the difference it made to those kids on the telly a couple of years ago - it taught them that rights come with responsibilities. It wouldn't do any harm, IMO, might teach them about boundaries and parameters.
Have you got a link, bobbi?
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I will find one Boxy, it was on Sky News this morning and they interviewed a head teacher
First I've heard of it. I there a link ?

I think these sort of things help some individuals and make others worse. Might be worth a try when other possibilities have been exhausted.
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I am having a look now OG, was definitely on SN earlier
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I didn't dream this one up :-(
it was on SN
watch this space folks...sorry I don't have a link here
This BBC Panorama programme, "Classroom Warriors", still available on iplayer, showed a positive use of ex-soldiers in the classroom: http://www.telegraph....s-BBC-One-Review.html

My own experience of an inspirational ex-RAF officer who taught me Maths in the late fifties to early sixties, who led countless children to understand Maths and achieve good passes at GCE O and A level whilst enjoying the subject leads me to believe that this can only be positive.

Well done Bobbi for highlighting this story.
Link from the paper here Bobbi ....http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningne
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arrrhh thanks, I thought I had imagined it :-(
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so what do you think?
would it work?
No,
I watched that interview myself this morning Bobbi! Looks like an interesting idea ..
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I think there will be the 'do gooders' applying pressure against it , personally Quassia
I think the perception of the 'older generation' that militarty style discipline is the answer to society's ills is misplaced.

What is needed is the induction back into our culture of mutual respect and understanding, and this is not necessarily provided by the hieratrchical structure of military life.

Soldiers are taught that they do as they are told when they are told without question - which does instill discipline, and may well be suitable for a section of society that responds to this type of social framework, but it is by no means a 'catch-all' solution for everyone.

Young people slide into bad behavior for a vast variety of different reasons, and lumping them all together as needing 'discipline' in this sense is not being helpful.

My solution is, and alwyas has been, for the government to dtrop its obsession with university education, and pump some money into the opposite end of education - nurseries.

Nursery nurses properly trained and equiped are the solution - they can teach children from a very early age to interact properly, and enjoy being in a mixed group of people - which will ensure social cohesion (where do they get these phrases??!!) in later life.

It will take one - maybe two generations to filter through, but then we will have a generation of adults who not only respect themselves and each other, but will pass on good values to future generations.

Of course, it won't happen. Successive governments are looking for voters - and they are young adults, so nurseries will continue to be staffed by minimum wage teenagers who drift into that employment because they feel unsuitable for anything else, and have a vague fluffy notion that 'working with children' is a nice way to carry on.

It's not that simple, in either case - but real solutions cost real money - and that is why they are never considered or carried through properly.

it is ironic tha the current Education Secretary trumpets about giving discipline 'back to schools', when it was his party that took it away in the first place!!!!
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yes a non military school triggs with discipline and direction
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cheers Qussia :-)
I cant say I know what the answer is but Boot Camp seems more about bullying kids into submission. Im not sure I like the idea of that. OK I haven't actually read the article.

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